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FLACE : Cen tral TP xas Museun:, ~;c:Jado , lc:->:a::: ,
a c t·oss ft·om thP o ld St.age Coc..: h J r:r:
INTF.. F;VIHJE F: : J arne ::::; F'ct tl- j c k Mc:Gu i. p ·::-
~1 : Good morrdng . 1'1t·s _ F~ob>:-l· tson _ 1-JF: ~ P:: wighty g L'jd i.e;
be her e in Sa lado vi sjt ing wi.th you t oday _
I ' d l i kP t o ask you t .o b egin by t .elli r:g us vlho yc.u
a t·e <'ind vlh P r·e you c. a rHP f :· on; _ And t.hcn, tc~ folJov!
th:· u u g h , and teJ J us when }'<··u fj t· :-:.-.t k rt e l•J about SaJad o ;
c: a n:e h ('!'t.~ perhAp~, ctr td became f ar.. il iar vJith thF hi st::.H y
of t .hi s t· .i r h c.ommur:i.ry a r:d t he F;obel· t.sor; farr,.ily _
R: Wf::ll , y uu asked rn~~ abou i t.-.>hc r e J vJ-"1':: bO!T! ;:,nd ~·Jh.:d .
I was a r:d eve t· y t .hjr,g_ 1 au; t1c:xy Lur j] ,_• At·ms1..:-ong
Fobe t· t.scm _ l"fy f a t her vJaS Cha r] es J\'Y ;\r m ~~ tl- 0 ng, who
c an1P t r• a ~.>J edd ir: g j n T t.-:>:<J:, C:i1d rr1>-· t nr·;: tHDt her , l>.,!hO WcL::
ri<'HIIed Ly d i a 11el jnd:ot Dr·1 :-l rtPy_ Hr• r r ·~rPrtt ::. I'Jr~ t c E-:?. ! .l y ,
ea rly Te xar:s . Hr:• l- g rart di=-··~~n·rd -:-:: w :-·, t f · j n t hE· Au:;.tjn
Col o n '/ r.t : . young p t·or d r·_ ] rl r (~! · t' 1 h .:td :- .(-~ \!l' fl {j!'J( l0 ' '_, t or~,
f :l lh! !'I: Ill!
R: in the oJd Tht ep Hundt-ed _ . t hP S t.ephPrt r _
Au ~. tin Col c,rty _ Wherr WI.·' Tt>Xcirt~ . S<lY , "1ht> oJ d lht·ec
Hundr·ed" it is Jike, in the 9nY Nin e t ie~ .• peopJ~ scdd,
"I b e ] ong t o the Four Hundt· ed of HevJ Yol'l~ _" But ~.>J e
b e longed t o the Three Hundred of Texas_
It' s been a !:>oin t. o f pt· ide t n me t.hrough the yeat·s
that my people came t o Texas h e r·e when t his J.artd wa~, a
vast. wildet-ness a nd h e lped t o est ablish a c.ivi lizat.ior:_
The Robet-tsons we r·e doi ng the same i n centt·a l Texas , the
same type of colonizatiort. The Robertson colony was a
wildet· land thart t .he Aust.in Colony_ It was on the
frontier, more exposed to the Indian a ttacks_
Ster·l ing C _ Robe t- t s or: c arHe to this area in a v e t-y
early year in Ang lo- Texas His t ory _ _ 1823 _ HP wa:::,
exploring, surveying and hunting on the Littl.e River
( eat-1 ier known as St._ Andt-a s ) t .he vJint.et- of 1823 _
I marri e d Sterling c_ Robertson, the great
gt·andson of that fit-st St.E-:' t· ling C_ Rober-tson , the
impr·essar·io of a colony t .ha t br-ought the fit·st
pet·manent settlers t o centr-a l Texa s_
J first came out to Salado to really see it
tht-ough t.he eyes of a late teenager, whe n I fi r-s t. met
Sterling Robe rtson_ We came out to his home , that had
bee n the h o nte of t he Robet-t.sons s ince 1852 , when th r-~
h ome was built . It. i s still a landm a d~ in central
Texas . A home of 22 rooms , 2 hall s , 2 stairw~ys, 4
pnrchPs and 11 f i replaces_ No nne has livPd in thi s
ho usP conti nuously but. the Sterlirtg c_ Robe t· t sons.
I i \ \I'. I 1-~ l ' ·;I I! !
R: At or1e tin, ~-:> , the f amj ]y moved t CI (.,po r g r· tm·m fnr th r
c h il dr en t .o gu t.o pt-Pp sc h ur..l a nd t c• Southwest .e n ·,
Uni vet·si ty _ 1 hey left thP home j rt c h <:n·ge of nne of thP
daught e rs, who had rn c-tt·ried and had tvJCl little git·Js_ ScJ
she t .ook ca1 e of thP fami 1 y home _ And o f course , she
was born a Robertson; i n f ac t s h0 ~.>Jas born in the hous e.
The eat· J y people who 1 j vPd thet·e had a di ff .1 cuJ t
t.ir11e getti rtg matet ial s asserr>b J Pr:l tn bu1ld a horflc: l il-.c
this. Not only did they build the h ouse, b u t they
bui 1 t . a] l of the necessat·y out. bui 1 dings that liJC? call
dependencies . Altogethet, it makes a big living unit.
vJe have thP quat· t .ers fat· t .he house servants_ WP.
have the stables for the saddle horses; the corrals for
the li vest .ock. The fan1i l y but-ial gt·ound _ When the
first member of the family died, no public burial
gt·ounds wet·e known then at all. Evet·y pioneer, even
with a log house , would have a small plot to bury their
own people , and it was thei r responsibility t o take
cat·e of it.
We ll , at the Robertson place, the first little
girl who died was buried from that house in 1854
Eliza Madora Susar1 Robertson. Buried in a vault. under
the big oak t.r ee _
Lat.et· a picke t f ence t-Jas put. a t·ound t .he cernetet·y _
Then a t·oc.k wall was bu.i]t by t he second gener·aUon
thet·e _ And then we t·ebui 1 t j 1. _ My hus band, St.pt· l i ng,
and I r Pbui lt the wal l and enlarge d the cemetery
because we wanted our bod ie ~, placed t .h L't P, t oil_
! :o. l!'.[ I\ 1· '"i~
R: Co.lone J cmd Mr :~ . Hob 0 rt s on cw v burjed thPn: toe,_
The td g c.ertt r·al mat· ker in th£• ceme 1 e t·y i~. for· 1h(~ whole
famil y but. it. d e1es give thP life and ser· vi c P of Colont>l
Robet· t son' s life in 1exa!":'-: on t he· s i dC?s of tJ1(:; monument .
.life.
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But. comi ng back t o coming out. t o Salado o f my own
1 loved hi s t .on' fr ont thE:' ti mJC~ l was <:1 smctl l
I saw in this place the gn?<1t p ossibil i t.i e ~. of a
li t .t.le res t.o1·at.ion al thougi: it. had been a family h on, t~.
When the same fa mily lives i n the home , it is kept up
better by fat· than if it. i s r· ent.ed or leased a nd
s ometimes abandoned_ But this home had been kept and
it was so we ll built, good material s and g ood
workmans hip, and on a limes tone rock foundat ion.
Pat· t. of the b uildi ngs at·e of .1 imestone t·ock _ The
o ther is lumber. The ma in walls of the house are of
c..ypr·ess . And the n ins ide is pine and oak and cedar·_
The cypress was hauled in on ox wagons , and on
mule-dravm wagons ft·on' t.he sat:J miJ l s a r·ound Hous t.on _
The pine was bt·ought . in fr om t .he lost pines at·ound
Bastrop, Texas _ The door·s and windows, and we have the
bill of sales on t hose for the whole house, we r e made
to fit. t.he openings that we r·e alt·eady bui lt. int.o t.he
house_ Sash door s , big double d oor s to all of the main
r·ooms opening out onto 1.hP por·c:h _ The wir,dows, and
t hose s a s h doot·s, the t.oJindovJs and the door s , wer·e mad E~
at a sash and door f ac: t .m·y jn Ga lves ton, 1exas.
Galveston, of cout·se , i n thi s period w a~:: a pr·jn c iple
c ity, a port of e nt.r·y, f or the jnt.et· jot· of 1exa!.,. _ We
l !r ll>. t 1n ~: ,1 II ·!
R: hove the tdlJ of soles that s tat E-~~:: thcd they wpr·p
put. or1 a b<ngc· tr· on: t .hP fac t.ot·y ir1 GaJves t or1; s hipp£-?d
over· to Houston; and t .hen up the Bt·a:zos to a r· i vet· por·1
and at the ,. i ver port., Robe t· tson 's wagor1s and tearns
would meet the boat to tw ing the f ir1 ished doot· s ,
windows , and sash dom·s bac. k to his house, a nd the n the
craftsme n would install them_
It was a long time building: f our years . - a
li t.tle mot·e _ And then, of cout·se, came t he wat· _
Because this house , and they were in it, and then the
war clouds came and all building and progress on the
frontier was stopped_ And at the time this house was
built , this was raw frontier_ Indians were camped
eight miles ft·om het·e _ The Comanches had ,. aided Ht
here just before the War b e tween the States and
mw·dered t .he Riggs famiJ y, eight. mi 1 es nm·t.hwest of
het·e _ And they captut·ed t .he two li tt.le Riggs gi t·ls and
c. an· i ed t .h ern away_ As they wet·e catTY ing them on the
hot·se, one li t.tle g i d . fell off; the ot.het· 1 itt le gi r· l
jumped off the hor·se , when s he saw h er· si st.er· fall off_
They crawled through the weeds; the Indians didn't try
to t·etx ieve the gi t·ls because they heat·d the hoofs , the
hoof beats, of the horses of the people pursuing the
Jr1dians because they wen::' tr·ying t.o cat.ch t.heru . The
litt.J e git·ls cTawled through the weeds and escaped.
Two year·s ago, an old, old lady wa lked ir1 our
Mus eum of Hi s tory hen :· in Salado and s;:dd to me , "Ha ve
you evet· h eat·d of the Riggs fa llli]y?" And l sajd, "(If
\ !i l!-'1 1:1 ·.,t •\ I
R: cour se I havt:. "They ar r: th<.=· pc·opll·· tha1 thE:
lrtdians killt-d t.h~::- mot h e !· c:tr;d fat.lter, ar•d c.~-tvt.u r·t!d the
1 i t t. l e g i t"J s . B u t t. h P 1 i t 1' 1 e g i r l s go t . <:Ho.J a y _ Ar1d she-said,
"J h <:tve asked al l over· RPJ t .or: ctnd e:llJ ovp ~ Sed ado
if anyone knows the, Rigg s and no one k nel:J _ . they
s ay,
"t.Je ' vP never· hean..i of them." And I s.:t.id , "I certai n];:
have_ It. j s one of out· tt·ue Indian s tot ies and a l so ~t
hon·m· s ton" of the rrrw·de t· of the people t'Y t .he
Comanches _ Also, a tale of bravery of the little girls
escaping_" And she said, "1 am a gr·ea t. g r· anddaughtPr of
Rhoda Riggs."
M: How fascinatin g .
Can you tell me what t:he v isitor· ' s room was in the
big house?
R: Yes _ For· the s t .r ange r·s t o spend th2 night in _
Robert.son, and his e n tir·e fami 1 y, wet·e fr·onti e r p e ople_
They h a d pus h r:'d the f r· orii·.i e t· s ince t .hose Scot.t ish
immic~w a nts cc.me in t .hrouQh th2 p art of Phi ladE? J.ph.i a ,
dovm the Shertandoah VaJ.ley and pioneered in Vit· ginio..
Intet·man· ied in Vi rg inia with the Ste t· lings; wi. th these
di ffet·ent f arnil i es _ _ _ the Stet· ling:::: , t.fle Clacks , the
Mac lins , the Rando lphs _ Then they pus h e d ove r t h2
rnourd.;:dns int.o Tennesse.:::- ; f o unded Nas hvill e, ·rennessee _
He got.. hi ~-. comm i ssion from Geot·gp Wn. s hington thai. I
<..tlt..ray ~; thought. was v e :·y inten:-s t.ing_
Then, t h ~:· Robet· t sons camE· on au 1. h et·e t o Texas a s
~-oor1 o.s tvlf:··x i c.o e:d}OL.Jed Sf:' t.1.Jpt·s. S t .P t· .ling RobPr· t.son
(.
I :t JF; I: I: I :.;1_)1 ·I
R: got thi s grard ~.>J j th a grPai gt·oup o f p eop .lP who met
a 1 the cow· thouse in 1'-lashvillP, lerm c~ ssec, t.o fonn t.he
Texas Associatiorr. lhey soon found out th a t they could
n o t g e t a gt·ant of l and f or .::--; company; that onE-! n1 arr had
to be in ch.::t·ge_ He was the impressa t· h) r esponsible
for· the sett.l ing ; r e s ponsi bl e fm· the g c,venrmerd. of
Mex ico .. _ m a ~drrg his t·epcw t . d it·ect.Jy t o 1.h e
government of Mexico.
Spain did not allow colonies t.o fm·n1 of f o n~ign e r ·:::;
ot· fm· eigrret·s t o set t] e . You had t o be a c i ti zerr of
Spain a l t .hough Spain owned Texas for· t.t-u·ee hundr·ed
years, s he had n o t ma de a per-manent settleme nt nor· th of
San Antonio_ Spain exploited Mex i co _ Me x i co f ought
Spain fm- e l even 1 ong yeal·s _ Finally in 1820 and ' 2 1
. I think it was a c tually 1820 , Spain g a ve Mex i co
h et· fr-eedom_ And with het· ft· eedom, s h e g ot. Texas
a nd the the great Southwes t.
M: Mr s . Robe rtson , the stranger 's rooms on the old
plar:tatiorrs , L>Jen~ the n fo r vi si t .o r·s coming by?
H: Th e stt· anger· ' s r·ooms wer·e pur· posel y inc orpm· a ted
into the at-chi t.ec t.ut·al for·m fm- s t.r-anger·s to h a ve a
comfor· t.abl e place to s tay ovet· night. Robe rtson , many
times as a boy . (he came into Texas when h e was
twe lve year s o ld ) had to roll u p i n hi s coat or i f he
had a saddle bl ankP1 _ and s leep under a tree in
the t·air•, j n the co] d _ So when he and his wj fe• wet·e
p}armjng the ir h alliE:' on the ft-ontiet· s hP had sa.i d, "I'll
.1 ive on thP fr·ont.iet· _ I'm not aft·a i d of those
1:1•1'·.1 f ; i ! ,\ q·.l
H: Jr1 d ian ~:... " He d Pci ded th a t rw h <:~d bet.t.P!. 9~':t ou1 C'lf
rd s l og house cmd build a h o r11 c:> f or 11et t·y llizab(•1.tl Dickey
Robe t· t.sort. Ar1d t.h~: hou ~::. t · , as they dt·ew the plan::., they
p ut. stt·angc-!t· ' s t·ooms . Thet·e at·e two of them. 1h en~ ' s
one off the f t·ont pot-ch and onP off the back pon·h _ Any
st.t· a n get· could come by on h i s hot·se, ot· if he:-· happened
t o have a cat-riage _ .. but. most. of 'ern we r e wa.lking ot·
h o t·sebad; on thE! ft·on ti et· i rt those d ay~, _ They could come
in and identify t hems elves and say that they we r· e on the
f t·ontiet· t o buy land m· t.o find r·elatives ot· for
wha tever r easo n . They c ould put. theit· hor·se in t.he lot.,
come in and s t ay overnight_ And that night, of course,
eve rybody wo uld come in for the evening s upper on the
fron t i er . And that way t he family we re infor med what
was happening in the more civili zed part of Texas and
the stt·anger· would ha ve a comfor·tabl e p l ace t.o sleep
that night . He could g e t up the next mor·ning, and go or1
his ~oJa y.
We have in a n accoun t book an interes ting f act. and
I'm going t o put it i n thi s inte rview becbuse I though t
it was most inte resti ng. Mr s . Robertson' s mother Jived
h er·e . She was a r·ema t· kable lady_ She s h oul d h ave a
book about h e r. He r name was Sophia Ann Lynch . She
wa:.:: bot-r1 Sophi a Pad~et·. Dr·. Hulan H. Pat· ker came to
Texas, her two the r, . l ater· he was Texas ' fir s t .
PubJ i c Heal th Off i c.e r· . M r ·~ . Ly n c h wa::..:; a woman o f gr ea t.
em::-.,- gy.
So sornf· men camP. b y vJI1o needed a place t. c1 s J eep
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f·\ : a nd fi11ed bo t.h s trange r' :::. t·oom,-:. l.J.it.h t hesE' mPn l..tho
WPt'P dt· iving a herd of c a ttl e ft·orll the' t~ uc-T e::=; 1.c1 t hf-:' Red
Rj v e t· _ They had los t t en head, they had wandet·ed on t o
t.he Lampa sas , the n E'xt t·iv et· , not· th o f thv Salado , whe r e
they had l ost ten h e ad of cattlE.
Mt·:::, _ Lync h had the ru ir• and she wa s supet·v i ~-;ing
theix b t·eakfast and the y loJPre so irnpt·e~..sPd l<Jith this
J ady , they told het· th a t if she caul d g e t t hose cattie
that they vJouJ d give them to h e r_ So j n the accoun t
book t.h e r·e at horne , she said these me n, and gave thei ,­names
, we t·e on t .h eit· wa y ft·om the Nuece s to the Red
Rive r· and lost. ten head o f cattle on the Lampasas ,
''lvhich they g a ve me . They are br-anded." And she had
go1 ten the bt·ands ft·om these me n and she dt-evJ t .h e
bt·ands of the cattl e _ And knowing h e t· , ft·om lo.Jhat J
know, and I kn o vJ her· a ] mos t like a bl oocj s i s tet· because
I've been up h e r e on the fronti e r , t oo _ And I just
know wh a t s he did_ At the b reak of dawn t he nex t day,
s he had the me n out of the Robe rtson wo rking s t aff , to
go o v er· a nd find het· c a ttl e and bt· ing 'em in fat· b e t· _
M: Th at. 7 s <:t l.Jondet·ful s toJ·y _
Did the Robe t· t.son family t·un catt.l e p t·imat·ily or
was the pl a ntation fm· cotton m· o th e r· craps?
R: Tha t's vet· y int eresting p o int th c~ t· e _ My hus band
and I u sed to disc uss i1 quit.e o f t en. lhere 7 S n e ver
ber>r. a boJ l o f cc•tt.o n r e~ i sP d orr our plac e _ It has been
feed or food_ Fond f or p eople and f ped fn r ljvestock_
Ar1d so he d id nm J c1t ~, of ca t t J f." - Remr>mbPt , h £·
I~ ~ 1!:: I I< I : ,, tl !
H: irthe r·jted a Jot of l a nd fn)fll hi ~- fath r-t·, Htt::'
lnq:wesar· i o , who l ived and diPd dm·m em th e f:.r· azCI~: .• ,:", r,,J
the Br azos ,. j v e r v a lley , t he who] P val l ey , vJas a
pot.en t. ia l kingdom f o r cottort. In f ac t ., t .hat' ::.: t. hP
t·eason that Fngland wan ted us t o j oj rt t hP.I ll , vJhP.n vJL:
first got m.n- independence _ _ wherr S.:'1nta Ar1a , t.hP
dj c tat.o r· , was c:apt.w·ed . Eng land was cm.It·t ing us lib:~
e vet·ythi ng because they vumted o u1 J and_
They had g onP in t o the IrJdus 1T i .oJ RE'vo1 u tj on H 1
England_ They h a d mi ll s that we t·e hungr·y fot· cot torr _
And England was havi ng t o get what cott.on they we t·e
getting in from India a nd ma ybe from Egypt _ So they
thought if they had a foot-hold in this pa r t o f the
~·Jm· ld, Texas f m· ins t .ance , t .hey coul d develop t.h c:
Bt·azo s t· i vet· bot. tom and the cotton p l antation s _ So on
our home place _ _ and I carr v e t· i fy what. they t· aised,
the c r ops that they rai sed _ _ they're from records
th a t e:u-c the t·e_
J a d rTiit·e more every day of my life, Colonel
Robe t· t.s on and his wjfe, f or· t .he t· ec.ot' ds t .hey kept; mos t
met.icul ous t·ecords _ I knovJ how hat·d it. i s for me just
t o keep a l i ttl e diary o f wha t 1 am doing i n my f eeble
l ife _ But f o t- him with th o u s a nds and tho usan d s ,
hundr-eds of t .housan ds o f acres of J c:nd; p a i d t.axes on
93, 000 acres ir1 th .i s county alone. And the oth et· land
tha t he had to keep u p t>J i th and at t hP !:-ante t.j me, when
h r._, fit· s t. c:amr· h c> t·e, he t~Ja.S Spani s h tt· an ~J <tt or in the
GF.•ner·a l Land Off i c:P i n Aus tin_ FvPr y two wePk s , h t•
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R: t•JOuld g n dm.Jr1 tc t1 u~-.iirr ic1 1rctn ~-:J a1 F· l•Jh ;:d h:··.:..i r· nn· ~ ·
HI .. ~;c,, o n t h.-:11 1 <-tr id a n d or1 hj~. r;:,Jt tl t·, hP u~.:;ed ~;r·. f: c1:.
hi:::. br a rtd .. I•JE:-' havP th o ~.,-. b t·andi.r1g it· nn:c, t nd;ty ..
!·1 : T i ' <:i t. ' ~: fa ::-:c i n <:d :i rr 9 ..
F: : And t .hen , or; 1-d s bed P :.=-. o f ( ot t ort , he used F::>Cf: _
~Jhc'n h e c.ame t. l., 1 e:-:ct~~ art"-:l vH:=·ni tCJ t.hf·' Cc:1t.hul j c: Boy c:.
S;:.hoo] i n Saf! An t o:d c: , h P did r: r:t· hav1::· .::, ~:ai rd ':::~ n.:..~me
and he did n o t have a P ibl i CCI I n allt !? a :::. n:os 1. o f t he boy:::
o f Cai..hol ic fa j 1:.h hc.d .. So hP a c:lopted his gt· and f.: .. : t h·:=!t
Robet· t son 's f i t·st nanre , Elijah .. He Wa5: c.h t· i st.eneci
S tet· ling Clack Robet· t.~; on f t· om his moJn fathet· _ Ar: d t .hen
his fat.heF h ad gotten t .he naroe St.er· ling ft·oru a Vi rgini <:1
famil y name and Clac. k ft·om ano the t· Vit·girli a f amily
narr11? _ His mo t.h e 1· , Sarah Mac J .i.n, d esc e ndant of t hP.
·Ster l i ng and Clacke o f Mac lina had given him tha t name_
She was an int.eres ting woman . She outlived h e !·
s o r1, the I mp t·esa!·io , St e t-ling Ro bet· t .sor:; lived t o bP
over a hundred year s of age _ t>. s t t·ong Pres b yt.et-i .:m .
When 12 o 'cloc.k came , she cat· r i ed het- s et· v ant, Pa uli r:e,
t o chut-c:h ~·Ji th het· _ And vJhen thP. nd n i s t e t· LoJcnt <-J
n:inute c:vet· 12 o'c..lock, Mt·s_ Scn·ah t'la c lin F-1o b e t· tsOII,
the mothet· of M.:1jo t· S t.e rling Cl ac k Robe t·tson, t·ose t o
h e r f eet a nd sa jd, " Come o n Pauline. It' s time t o go_
And chur c.h wa :-=: ovet· when s h0 s t ood u p , because the
pnJach e t· vJ<::s g o j ng 0VPt · 12 o' c J oc l:.
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W-:1:-·. PauJ j nr· h P r ';>
H>·.'t- set·va ;, t m<:-. i d t.ha t WPn 1 vd t h h P I- e v P r ywhet e
tJ t 1r atl~=~r· ~.J p:-~ .. :::.h t · J ived by hC' t .. ,.:.edf 11di lt th f' fll i-t.id _
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M: HPrP <-1t i he· h on1P·:-
f ~ : I..Jo. ~; h e Jj vpd jn !..Ji:1 !:"-h vj JJc', lf ·rJrll?~.:-.e~-- ~ .h t: ' n f.:O \/ (-· ~
c:a rnP 1. c• Te:><u:..· . 8u1 =-h~-=' c.c.JJpd t hE- Rnbcrt::-:r_;r, Co lony her
~~or ,' ::: lexa ~'- vent.t_u·c . Arrd ~'he> h <-~d twPn t.y 1 hou::_·.;:md
do JJ a r s t jed up ir, jt _ She h ad SCJ] d her· hu:::h.:.:nd' s
(Eljjah Rotn- · r· t ~-Or l ) I ndian land:.:·., pr·errlium lcm d:-: that
he had gotten f or· SPt·vice j n the Indian war·:·. i:'lr:d t.h(:
Amcr ican Rr::vol u tior, _ See , h e W-2'\S in the t \ !IJE' r j car:
Revolution jn the battl E- c.>f F-'o ini. Plea:;. and she s oJd
that. l and _ And it vJas con vet· t ed into s.ll ver· _ Ar1d shP
g a ve t .went.y thousand dollat·s to he1· son sc' his
colon i s ts could bor r ow jf they needed it ..
But no, they didn 't 1·aise the cotton h e r·e . But L·Je
t·a i sed con: _ Nm·J c:onr vJ a:::::: r·a :i sed b e cause :it ~.<Ja:::.:. a food
b o th fot· people and f o ;· t.he l j ve s t od-~ _ Ro b e r· t son, the1·e
an:· wo r-ld,:. cf l e tt.e 1·s there vJh e r e hE· i s t.<J t· i tjng t.o
Tennessee, t o K entuc: k~i , t o f i nd out L•Jh e t·e h e can buy
good, blooded hm ·ses t.o impt·o-...te the mustangs_ He ~\las
t•witirrg t(J find out abou t hogs_ Hngs vle t·e a b.ig thi ng
vJ.i th the eat· J y peop le . They c:ou.ld make:' thc-j t· m·m
l j ving nut in t .he t•Joods. They a t.e the pecans a~, they
f e.1 1 . Thc~y t·oot..ed i n the eat·th to ge1 t he t· o~•ts . They
fatt.Pned then : _ And a p ioneet· could go out and k iJ 1 a
fat hog ar P.i h <:rve mea1 f o t· hi ::-. f ar11i .l y even j f he
cou.l drt't r a i se t h en . . Thpy u-::~u a lJ y di d go wild . And
t.hi~ y J et t.he ur.
/~ nd wh c-'rt t.hP rot n vJa :=. mctdr>, th e:1 t th ~:•y hdr:l
prot.ec tE'd f t n nt thP vd. Jd h og ::~ <'l rtd the t>Ji J d c .:.,t 1 JP, t.hey
1.- '
I ~ ~ I i : ! . l . . ~ t l ~
f \ : L~•e rP h<:~ t v~.:-·'?. 1 (-'·J _ ThP'/ ' d ~~1<:·,: · 1 fppdjr:·_:J tfl('!!,, 1(•]]
th(-:>n: u p ~ ·.c, thc-•y c ou l d ~ .. 1a u ghtcl ti~t "",r:• fot· tl'w L·J intP t
meat .. 1hv c.attJ P wr: r e t.hP jon ghonl ~-;- Eu 1 1\n t>l:·r t !::.n rr w ;~t::
brir, g ing ir1 good cu t t.1P c.d.1 trw tin1 v: t o irnpt· ovc- tl1t: '
n ;::1t.i ve s t.o c. k _
1·1: l h (::t ':: .. VI:' ! y i n tpt·c~. t i r1 .;! , 1'1!·::, _ f·.:ob c~r t. ;,CJ :-J .
l'! r.L·; t·Ji]J yc:u ::; t .:.::l·t cut by t·r-:n•Pmhe:·ing, . . . . ": ,
J r 1 J 1. J ,::; 1 ; 'ir ,
L·Jhen y ou c.anH:: t o ::,,;dado as 11I· s _ Robet·tson '1 Co.n y cH.~
f:1abot· at.t:' a little bit. C•n t .ha t ? ~·J h::!t wc·n:· ::.~om :·· of youi
first impressions? For exampl e , t he f i rst week you
s t ·.3yec1' 1. n the plan tat i or i h om2?
R: Well , J'd been out :;.:o many times bc·f cre t!JP ma tTi e d,
tha t I was v e ry f ami liar wi1.h the PJ' . ac. r::• _ Ar:ci c, f
c our s e, I was v e ry f c:sc ina t ed t..ri th the sto:· ies _
Some tj mes othe t· t·elat..i vE·s, c J dE·r ones, vJOu Jd come _ Ar1d
h a ving bee n tn-ought up a l e t by my gn::r;dmo thet· , Ma ry
..1 ar1e Gat.es De J ane·}', I l o\;ed t.o asl', t.r.ern q£J~stiorl!_. ar:d
gc-•t. t.hen1 t o t e ll ll! f:> t hings about the hou:=..c:-; p i t::res C;f
fu:-r, i t.ur e; n a mes nf t he mer: t.h -?. t wo rked thE' t e ; t ht:·
n .::,wes of t.he v.mrr:en thF.t '!. wor ked the n ::· _ P. ecausP t iJ t. ·
n e gt·o wome r1 had a big in fluence or: th ns~ g irl :::: grm,;j 119
up_
When I m<.·HTied , thr::te were th:·prc· C1f th €-' ~.lx
c:laugh t.et·s o f Colonr: l and ~1: · s . r:obet· t s0n' ::; s till l :i ving _
Hl'-'Y vK·!e old, r.dd I ad:i~·:::-._ Artd t hc ' t' e vJ<'::7- n ni · tha 1 1 ovp,j
to c: nme home a J o1 _ /:,rJd J J CIVPd t 0 h <-:V>'· hPI _ My
fri end:.-: wou l d say , " You ::..<'lid you r· o.ld cnJnt l'-' ·O"t ~ .. tomir1 ~
l r• vj ::-:jt f o : 1 t.teP w-·~;·!: ::. . S h P ' ~. hPPn 1 h P t (-· l hr ~''l'
I ~ I ;\ . j I ' ·: ~ :' I! ~
'l : ;
f-: : mor: t k -.! " f,r Hi J ::..: ~\ 1 (j ~ "I''· u 1 y c:u h <: v1 · r p·, _i .::h · ~; 1-J! i -~d
.::t r:: J eat r, ing fr o :11 /~u rJt l F:i.1<J . /\1 H !I L t=-· :i L t j ~-·. t r · .l.l i r, ~J n: ' •
l hE::' narfl'"";:.:; c:f 1he servc:HJt ~. and tht-· fl ct ltl l?:."' c•f !h0 ~:::::dd.1~·
h o t· sc<...; , <tr1d whc•t each 0nc ' ~. d u ty t<Jo~- -" J !·.net·! L-;i t .hi r:
t't'.::tSOfl fl' Ofl: <'l J 0 t of t·eadi fl9, rr:ayt•P l>Jh.J1 t h0 ftOU::.;E· hYY
wc;uld do bui. 1 wanted to kr:ovJ wh<:t t Lj tt Je:· John, th l,
h uUSI::" boy t .h e t·p , di d t>Jhen shr.-· t;.Jd·:~ C. J j t t} e Si I J . A.r .• . ---l
:=J, ~;.-:> told mP exac:t.J y v.:h et t h P did. ~:h (;> t nJ d me h r: sJ P P1
ir: thf:• ::.toretoCHl: on :ct Jitt.JE nt ~-:l!tt· e~::. _ Gt-ar;dmot he r
Lync.h , Mt·s . Robet· t.~-:or1 ' :::-: rnot.her, wou l d b e the-? f i t·st one
up . She got Little John up. He t·olJ e d hi s little
ma t.t.t·ess up; t ied it wi t h a t·ope cmd 1:. t ored it for the
0 a a y_ Then he would go axound and ur:lor:·k aJJ of t .he
door·=~ . \.J e ll, J. won't- go i nto all of hjs d u t.ie5. but J
found out what. Little John did.
Littl e John h ad an inter esting life _ He gn~ t·J up.
l>-Jh er: one o f t .h e s i x daugh t er·s, Bir-die Robe t· t. son,
ma t-r ied Cone Johns on i rt t.h r:• fnx :t par 1 or, L i t.t. l e J o hr 1
vJent L•Ji th het· , a ::::. h e t· h o u sE' b oy , t o h P r n e-vJ h om,~ in
Ty let· , Texas _ .tmd J.at.e t- on, a ft. e l- t.hey had other hel p
in t heit- honte in 1 yJ.er· and John w:;.::.-. such .::::pol ite ,
pffic ieni you ng ma n, ( h e hcd man·ied and h 3d a fami l y)
Aunt Bi t·die ar:d Ur: c l P Con E• got John , the young John,
"' .iob (j ~·: a pot·ter on t .he t· aiJ r·oads. Artd t.h c.~ 1. ' s t J:e vJ<'iY
hj ::; c. ot·ec-t e ndc-od _
Hr:" had ·the-· nC:tlfiP Jottn Robpr· t.sc•n bP.c.au:o::p ctl J 0f
t.hPSP peor>le h a d ot· i gj n cdl y come ft-orn s ome tlj b p ir1
t,f rj cc: . 1 h f-' 1.r ;:tdP r ~. h 21d b cJugh 1. i h "fl' fr on: , ll!i'tY b P , th1
! .•WI !·J:o~l!l
I
f\: l!' ibcd J f-'<:tdf ·t arid h C!d l:1J'OIJ9l if t hF•fl • i j I :;:. ! t (• t l ~f.
r:cw thern p o t 1 :: . _ TltFY could rt(:1 1ivL-' .i r, t tt rtt cu]d
c J i m:-1 t.P _ ·r h f-· ~' fliJ t"h L.Ja :". ju::_.t d~·velc•r • ir t ·:::J and ~ ~ Ja r:iati or: :::.
wpr·p b ej r,g o penPd _ 1hio:. vli::to · rnon- tltP cl:i ril<:tfc t.h<::~t the
nPqroes could l ive Ht. So t h E~ y \JJ L-'1 E' SO 1 d 1.u t h E·
p l antat.iorr o vJn(:_,t-::. _ They dj d n~d h ove" ;,:; 1 a:::. t. rtcllit(: _ !~c
o ne fo r mi J lions of yea I -~- had a J <1 c-: t narHr-- _ (.Jp W o'l' ~-
called b y our f it-si naruf:-, wh e n vJ8 Jived in thP caves _
But as time evolved _ _ SO lvhE?ff t'hPSE; pc::opl•." ColliC'
ovet·, espec:iaJly t he housr? peop le , <:dJ too k the n a nrr:
R.obet· t son _ J h ave knolvn mar:y of them that. wet·e b01·n
then.". When they wer e old, o ld people, and J woul d go
t o see them , and again, I vmuld ask t-hem quest j ons _ I
kept n o t.es on e:d 1 of them _
Aun t Che lly was the younges t child in t his fami l y
o f Aunt ChelJy_ Au r:t Che.lly's r.;othe r·, Edna, was b o ugh t
off of a s l ave boat in Gal ve:-=. t on _ They need E-~ d a h r_1us e
fliaid. ~;he w a~: bt·ought thet·e _ She spoke a f ew words:
she h a,::: been orl a plant.a t.ion irr the West T _J ,
J.!li..JJ E':O- - And
s upposedly t o ec: t r:oo V.ed food~~-; t o weat· c lothes; to
s peak a littl e English . ~>h e kneL'>i a 1 itt l e En g ] i.sh; ~~h e
~ n ew a little Spani s h_ She s t .ill t·emember ed some of h~o-1 ·
n ati v e dial ect f rom Afri ca_ She was p ut. jr! t he ran~ of
t-1l·:;_ L ynch t.o bl-' tt·ained as a housE- rl!ai d _ Espt=-~c ia 1 J '/
tn take cat'P o f tJr f:' bedt·ooms_ ShP had t o be:: ta ur;:~h t tc•
vJ('dl' c J o t.h e~~; shP di dn't. WPctt- shtw:=. ctrtd Ur~t vJct~ - C:tl J
,-i gh t - J unde t·stand thC:tt. puin1 1:\ut at Cl f iY t· C:tt E• , SftP
vlfluld C-an·y ht·r sh oe~. 1 _i 1 ~:h e got . t.c1 t he~ d oc.1t - <:~h ;_._•
I ~I \~I ! ! : l . I I ) ! !
,':, ; '
k : \.JOLdd c c: n· y t!P"t•: .i rt tw: hortd, ur:tjl :):t · T:~ !(• thr
dnot·, t her t ~_,l;r-· 'd ~- l.i ~ · thvn: c1r ' bt>L <tll~-c· M:-~ _ lyn -. 1, I•Jnu]d
\tJ~::r tt h f.:'r h• w~"'oi shor-•::; .
!:"">h l·' woul d c CJJ!!f·' J rt ~:. he? h ::td 1 c• bt' t auahi t c
hand] e s h eet.::.: ; put. o:,h ePt.:·. on bPds bt~c au:::,(: ~;h •-: t.ad n ot.
hi:id any of that j 11 hP1· c:u] tu1 t • , ~.;i •.i c h vJ (-t:. Hkr~· t .c-· 1 c
sleep or t a rlia i"t.r- P~.S of s h u• t·. ~, or ::tidt·: . t·,l l 1hc
p_loneet·s did i.hat. t.oo, to ~-t. a t- t vJi 1h. 1ha t. ' ::. a} 1 thuy
had . Latet- Edna fli ot" !-.i ed th& neg1·o Col per ttp~- Elj jc;h
Robet- t.son .
This Che ]ly l ivPd to be a gr eat a g •? . ] V.iOU}d go
to see het _ She was bot·n in the t·oc+. house:o: ct. oU!-
place at t .h f:.· same day Mc: !·y S tet· ] j n9 Ro b e t·tson vJ a~.' b c:n·n
j n thP t.·ig f"~O tl S P, she t old flit? vJhen she ~·Ja n ted to ge "!
a pension, she had a b ttlc-: t .t· ouble with the author i t .i e s
establ i s hing her true b irth. Sc ::::~he was t elJ i.ng me
about h e r t.t·o ubl e~--; _ I'd gr1 ove1· and ] i s t.en to then:_
She t old m•:::- PJbo u.t thi s "Mt· _ Sh e t·jff " qu e~, tioning het
agf~ _ Ar td shl:. ::-aid th e~ t. she t.ol d h im , " Mt· _ 3hPr j ff
(by the way, Aun t Che}}y c alled even' c ff:i c-ia J
Sh e t· j ff ) _ if y ou dnn't beliE~ v e t hat. J wa s b ot·n
thet·e, you go out t o the big family house ir! Sa]ado and
you look in ihP family f\ ibl e ;:md you ' J l find me in i t_ "
Wc-l J, shP. ~>J a:..--;r ,'t ir1 thP. famjJy Bible but she LtJas ir: Mt·s_
Lynch ' s acc.ounl buok . t-1t :.. _ L yr1 r..h h <id the r1c:fltP~- - Clf c1ll
t hl-:o ~-:; J ave ~..; t,y famj .l j e:·. _ And Aunt ChP J 1 y vJn·~-: 1 h e J a :::, t .
( h i 1 d (i f t h i !".: f Ct Ill i ] y -
Er.irt<::t (J II r.i E: ] j j ?Jh \>J(?J"(' h f• l P CI I"PfJt ::; _ Ar1d Fdrt.:t I•Ja:;
, ., 1!'1 :; , . .t >1-!
f-; : thr gj 1 J th-:1 1 ~.J :-t:; t•Clughl . r:1ff 1 hr· ::-L•vt ho.d _ Shr
IJJ<:t·: . t hf· mo1ltt~r· of /,urt1 Cht·l J y, t hr· (.\f!t · J pc·t·::.cJnc-"1 1 ~'
kfle'-'J ct::-. an o .1 d , o 1 d J ddy _ hrrd I scid, "1-!hc-.li did the·
~>hr.-· r· .iff t e ll you:·" She~ ~:.:tid , " I·Jv} 1, h£-> ::.:c:i d hE" hc.d to
havP my birth dat.e_" Artd J !..~z.t.i.d, "I d o r,'t h<Jvt- it bui
IT!'{ PE:op]e out in ~;al.:.td u h .=:t v e it_" So, ] sc:cid, " Auni
ChE·]Jy, IJ-Je 'vE> ju:=.t gotten b t:id nevr .. t1 js:: t1-~ry ~-t er·Jjrrg
just diPd out in Cc.l.i fon1ict - " SI-P0
' l·Ja s. n•.:.: .1 1y :::·.(, fuJ.l
of ren·J0rsc: c~rtd sa,jrtess; n~urh nl C~ I~t: .. it-:ar: tt~ e L~hit t:•
peopl e , wh~n I t 0ld them _ _ the f 1·iends t.h c.t. had
kno~.Jn het· that v!el'E" s t.i J J l i '-.rirrg around S:.::lado _ She
said, Cll·!c t;jf?t'E: r,of- r! tf-iC same d ay _ I vJn~.:.. t·~:~-n otlt j rt
t.hose r oc.k houses and t·hss M.;:,xy St.t?r J .i ng if! the big
house ; the s.an'e d::n-' _" l said, "An:~ you sur·p of tha.t ':>"
She said , "I knew t.hat's t·ight __ " I s<:dd, "Aunt. Chelly,
I'll be b~c:k in an hour_"
And J got in my rat· and I d t·ovf-~ to S.::tlad;.:.J and
opPnf'd the fan;i]y BibJe; fnund M.iss t1an· ~--. tPI'l in g 's
b.lt· t hd;-r-;-' in it, wt·o t e i_ t cd 1 d ov;r1, t old my husband wha 1.
h.:=td h.=:ppened and h E~ c <:ill ed ove1· to the cout· thouse t o
es1ablish some far t s for Aunt ChPlly so she could get
het· I=-·Emsion. I dt·ove t· i ght o v et· t.o her and I had it
al 1 vw it ten down_ So she had a true birthday and a
bit·th dat.e that ~: hr· · had r :ev~ ~ - h a d jr; a ll pf h e t· life.
M: That ' s fa s cinatirtg .
Mt· ~: . HobPt-1 sorr, or1c 1-::' wtten I w<-c::; a1 ynu t· b ei:1u 1.i ful
homl--' J noti rY·d thai tftPt e wPrP somet.h i n g l ikP twe Jvc-•
red~it itec: - .lirdr1q ytlw· fr c.rd vJ <:dk. r: <' t!! you 1-t-'Jl O!f'
! '' ;t f ( 'f' I 1! I
~ • I 1 ~ I ' l ,
!'I: I•Ji lct t th i:t1 ITIE' i::trl ' .. ':'·
f:~ l h<t1 ': .. i .> ] <:H id:.:..{ ;:: [. •!.' PI' j rt t: .1 f >] ( '. {,r,. } ;:d l c·f i.i· , ~· t·'::t .1y
pf'op]e b:·ought .it l•li.th thPtrr whe n ihP·/ carnt::• f tom E: rll·opt:·.
11 was broughi. f t·r·m F t·.::tr trf•; it vJ ct!:. br c·u~~!,t ft· Cln; f:rt t;:1lr.trtd,
Scot land , In~ l a n d . I 1 was <"i s ymbolic l artdsc 3PE· pl art.
:~ rrd t.l-fl? f·p .::o·r-- t. t-.'r:~ J:>t· i ri( iplt:o<< I f uurtd oui . by g cj jng ba(L
or1:j frH·th t.c.1 l a rld :3CO.F't·• ~:c. h 0c!J doL'r: 2.~ 1.::·>. '-i ~.-. A~, f-1 f0 ~
f ~)u t - ye.::trs _ J wc-~ r t'L t.~.) learr1 t'ec.atlsc.:. 1 Ct:."'rt.ain l y d i·"ir:,.·[
i r:1 Pn d t o be , f ~ • a J crt a ~.c ar.)r:· :.JeSJ_grta::?~ o:· tc~ L·: r-:!j·~ .ir, ii
t •ec:ause I l;JOU ld h a V E' t.o g ,,..,, every d~~r - As it \.>Ja S , for
f our yeat· s , l•JP vmuld d o ou1· study j ng a t hPme <:md g o
d cMn f01· one vJeek and t.;:d',C exams ;:.irtd Jist.ort t.o lec.t.u t·e:::.
from all o ver the count r y .
I would h ear· these l ect.un:s t e l J about. thf='
p l· i n c ipJe of t h e tvJelve apos tles wa tching ove:· ot·
gua r d irl\J the pl ace. Ar:d I said ~ "l.Jell, vJe have t t.Je .1. vr.·
ad: .• ot·vj tae at. h o f!iE' d n vm the f t·ont t.jaJ. ! ~. " And he s aid ,
"~J e ll t ha t. N 3:..::: a ::::yrnboJjc plant i n g . A r~d
a t" bo t· v .i. L:=tP an:: PVe t· g 1· ee! ~ . So 1 h e pl an t ing ~-; mu~~ 1 b E·
evet· g t· eerts because 1. hey gu;:u· d and 1 ovP th e:> p.1 ar.P b o t .h
summ (~ t· a nd t.dnter; t t..:Plve in numbET. Sn t he t. w•.J
prin c iple~< f o .ll o vJed ~·Ja::·. ar: P\.'e t·green plant and t.~;J e ]v e
lrt numbc~ r.
When J vwrt1 ·to [.Jj lli arn:-:.btu · £"!, 1 w Et ~. c h ;;rntr:•d t.c1 see
th r·· ~-.a nt r:· p r irt c.i pl l' b e i ng car ried o u 1 dcno.Jn th(• vJ a i~ . t o
tJt ; · Gj(-.vf· t- nu t ? :::· . ~·;,d dl r· _ And t hP.!:.:::cJ W!'· t·p :=. ht·ut:.· ~-. but 1 hey
l·Jt-·: ·c PVC : gt· Pen art d t ht'•t co vJP t · r· t l•Jc•j vc· .i rt n umL;Pt' . lhert
~11 n: -: rt;' r-· L.trtL::l jort:. jr, Vity.irti <.: 1 n n ti rc·d t he r.·J a rt tjn<J··
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I :•_H '. I ! .: ! ~ '· ll I
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f; : and J ~:::a t•: .:i1 t· r·r. •i_•:_, tr-·d} y 1 tn·ou9:tutt1 1 hr· :.nutf,_
11: l h :: trd ·. y r:.u _
F r-o nt the o Jdc•r o.unt ::-·. in th l'· f a rr;j} y ~ J ! t r r : yuu f j t · ::.~·!
came t c l i v e i n the i:obr::' t· t.::::un h ome , y uu s3 j d y ou
ht? ~"1 1 · d ma n y :c;t.o t-it:::=:. in t lucljr:g 1J,r-· h c•U ':'--" ~:.--:·~a r:t :.:. orld ::.c:
f cw th _ IJjd t t:e y., r)P r fJ {j [. :~· , ti.=lJ ar:y u rHJ~.t-t:.:tJ s t.::-•t j p ·
t ~~ C\ 1 ~\1 Jr. k i n y c:!...!l ~ rH.if i1.-J'":)
F-: : WeJ l, I t .hink t h i s J :::.~ a _ _ r:o t p e:n· t.i c u L:n· J }' of
1 h eH: _ . aJ t.hough i i go10-•:::; t •ac !( i 0 C;.:J] r1r,ro·l Rob e r i.scn _
Whmt th E" neg t·o man , l>Jho l.Jas hea d of ct f a.n1i J ·y , fje I • - ! Ql:..;
not. s e ll the L>: i fe m· c.hild!· er! . HE' k2r:· t. f3 :~;i l i es
togethet· _ The :·efor G- , in thi ~- a c. c-our: t boo!'. , t hE·
farni l ies at· e gt·oupPd toge thF·r -=:t rtd it. s a. y s m2r: .:::::d wi f u .
Then t he c h i ldren . Then t .he next g :·oup t .hen' are t l•J:.i
lin e~-~ d rav:n and th en the nex t nta n ar:d vJif to~ .:omd c:h iJdr·en
a nd then al l . ThPn the sin g ] e one!::. l.Jet·e put at t .h e
,
1.as t. .. Mt· ~: . Lynch made th.:-d. list and she.' s igned it and
s h o d a t ed i L So vJP kno ~·J l>Jho vn·ot p it ; wh r:~n they l•W D tP
it.; then sht:- g ave the tr.Jo t·ea~~ cr: s tha1 ~--;he lvt· ot.P it. .
And I thir:L they ' t·e t-eali y ve1·y g ood becaus~.:-- l>JP t.h i rd; o f
th cJS~ wome rt maybe n o t. being v e r y eff i c.i r:.•rt1 m · c a r· e fu1 _
Bu1 a. ~. I sai d , a s t i me goe s art , I vJOn d !:.• t- more a nd mo t· e ,
in thuir busy life _ _ j f WP had 1 CJ cook over an ope n
f i t· e plcce; i f J had t o p] a rt the meaL-:. fot· a fam j ly o f
h ·JP ]V£:· c.hi Jdn:-n , H w fTI (l th E: I" and f a.1.hc•r ctn d gt·ar;drw• t.h c- t
. t hr ee mea] s a d<:l'/ - ffi <.J'/ t'P ~~Oifi(~O rJ E• j r: f t-0 !11 t t~~::·
~-:; t ;:t rt ~~ o r ' :-; t-oo rli . jf 1 had t c ~-:. uf .• P t vi : :f · the• f!If'CIL~ f ctt
th('· h n u ~ : t:' :::. f'l " V i:lr lt.~-- t · ~ ~ c c: u ::.r · Hwy wr·1· r: twougit 1 irr <:m d
i t•!·J 1. I '.: •!-!
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H: 1ttc:jr curd: (:•rr,.! c ned · ) hrid t"h( .. j t f OC1d t' t-•ctd~· f ~ ~~
thefll. Ar,d t t:o · hm.t~-:p i="r::'Or•.l ~· • t·.'i ·· de• n::-~ i me: .:-' n t.h C· ';'
wo:·ked inside::· th t · hou:-~c·. Thc'Y mj gr,! h<-:\iE- t•Jor ~'.f-:-''-}
8Ut !':.--:idr-· , t .oo. unc mar, . _ arrd Uri:::. is iht · pcint l
want ~::·d to n:aLP: if a n:arr vJ <:::::~ guod d.~-. c. c. abj nc- t n;::.ti.E'r ,
that's ~\!h a t he did. He ru~d e the fun:it.un: <=tr1d hr_liJ J
wish thos(;.• quar·tpt-~- w_:-;p sti.1J funtish•:'d L>Jith th.:-:1 1
hand-m21de futTli t.ure th?.i t.his ce:n·penter rn21d e . HG made
a 1 it. tJ e day bed few ~;· ::~ _ Lynch. Shr:- kept i 1 in hel·
:·corns because they h21d the big feetther br:-~d~-; in thP othe~·
bed:·ooms. And t .hey wouldr: ' t let the lj tt.le children
take n aps on those o1· get. on those beds bec21use they
had to b E! made O\let· al l a~airr because t he feai'het·s
would b e knoc ked fl~i- - So she kept the lit1.1 e dey bl?d
i n h e~- t·oom that John made for he~· so tf: c1 t ht:·l·
gJ·andch il d t·en could take naps in her 1·ocr.L ~1ohn a ] so
set·ved as Co ] one] Robe1· t sor: ' s b od;.-- set- \-'<::nt _
1\rtother fficiri was a l s o good a1 training t.he saddle
hr:n· ses- That w21s hi s job. Rut he w~ s c.al l ed hous e
peop] e becau se he wot· ked t· i ghi. thP t'C t·Jj t.h t h e far11.i J y _
Ther: anot.het· o ne w:?.s t hE-~ head 9-?. t denr.--'t _ He h ad
C~pp t· entjces because t h ey t·21ised th e--' vPgei.~b.les ctlld
f n .:i ts for all on t h P. plon t.atior:. PoltPt· tsorr
expet· _iii!P.nted with thc-· Dep<-.1r tme n1. of As;1·icuJ t un:.' all o f
h.i:::; J jfp up t.hPte o r1 ihPit· fron t if!r , l-• xcer•t t·hc-· fout
Yt--'<': t ,:, nf 1J:f• l,_l;-n· b0t.wecn ~;1 at r-->~, _ 1hPr: he p.ic L~~d j t ur·
rj '.Jh1 d.ft.Pf the t<J -:n· and ~~ t ot - t. Pd ag<-dr,_ ThPy wflu 1 d ser1d
h.i r.1 1hP !::--PPd; h l' wou.ld h .c1Vf·' his i e ::-.1 pl ot~ . ; h f' ~-J~Jltld
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f ~ : h i.:t t·ve:·. t j i .:md mz;k(-: h i:c l P P 'll t ··._ vn 11 'i' !w n~ <t~~J ~- - , [tj ':
r r>p o t· t ~· . , hr• fl!-:idt·' cl d up.l.:ir et tf· fc•! h jfii~TJf. /',r,d .:-; 1 J
1hn:::.e t· ep m· t ~,: ctt t=' h £>t·c· ir : th is h o u :::c·_
M: 11.' ~.: L i::. .c.in;:ltj ng to h a··/ t- s u c h P>:cel l ertt. f a wj}y
1· ecor &:: .•
A'.:: <:1 you ng bt· i de, wh c;.r; you c <:Wtc· t o t he F:nb e r· t s on
home , did voiJ E.·):po t·iertc.E' any ff-'t-'lJ j ng of dj~:::cJt · i e i~t.atjc,rt
in being j n <'! t otal ly new pl ac e or· w ·~t·e )'O!.l so fami 1 i w
L•J i th t h e f wni 1 ~' b y ther; , tlt-3t yuu h a d c. OfliE' t o e;:pec t. t c•
be part of t hem?
F~ : Wc=:.lJ , I' l.l tel l '/OU, I vJas a s ophomo r-e i n c:oJJ ege
l'-.!h en I ma n· j ed and I toJas s upp osed t o go b ad·. t r."J s c.honJ
but _ _ I hc:d nev e t· s een c.: l ivE· !·a t tlc,~:;n ake a nd J
di d r: , t fee ] t .h;::;t. J L-Jas ir: a str a n g e pl ace _ _ h e :·c
was t hi~-. ra t t les nake a nd t•Je had to d o s o met hi ng about
hj m m · he might kill someon E . And so } h a d t o J.ea 1·n to
kind of cope l·Jii.h t h r::· t·a t. t l esnc.d-.es.
You knov; in t .he early day~': , t he p ioneer·s had t c•
u .:ot t.c:h t he t·a tt.}esn a k e s and tJ:s:: Indi a n s . And j n r.;y dc.;y ,
I h a d t .o t•Ja t. r.h fc1· t .h e t·a t t .le sn ~k e s a nd t h e mot.m c:w· s _
Ar;;::l I l e a ,· r:pd t .c1 c ope t;Jj i .h both. t·,nd t hcd. ' s wh .:::tt 1
di d . I didn 't go bac k t o s c hool t h e r:, I d ec ided t h i s
wa:::: mat·e f a sc ina t i n g , leat·nj ng a bc11.1 t a r· a nc h . I ' d
neve t· live d o n a ,. a n(' h _ I wa ::-, bmT! i n my gt·and fa th e r ' ~-
homP , whi c h ~·J et:: . ct th t-PP thnusand a c n ? wJd dng sl CH.I··.
f a t·m a nd cuJ i i v .:=t1 Pd J a nd. Hf' L·:c::. mot r-o r. f c t-nH:t·, it LoJ a~~
h c· rc i n Rcd J Cm.t rl t )' . He h ad -:;:old ~ JJ o f t.h r- .i r r:' r o p e tty
dnwn in w.:-~~~ h i nglo n Coun t y, L>JhPn lr €· C. etO I(.:' b nc!·. ft·um th~ ·
J · i I!': I I.: I : :t•l l
~~· - Confed~-: n.t t~" A1 rny <:H1d rnnvPd t r1 r.r:·J J Coun ty _ /\r1d
1 ha l' ~· . vlhE·rP :I wa~. bc•n1. l•Jc· l •JE't - "'' v et·y smc:l J urtd n1';'
gt·andfa thp t- thought. l•Je cnuJ d n c>t wa 1 ~ : so far t::::r t ht:·
pubJ i c. school ~,n hP h ad rny ntu'! her l~w it F' i u Sout hvJes1
Unjvers .ity down irt San Man.o!:'.:. , t.o t.hP pt·es.id.:-~nt of t-t·w·
:::.chooJ. , to Sf-:1_--! .if t het·e vJ a!::: a gt-c:duafing s en .iur , .:::
young J c.dy, who wouJ d t·~~ govet-rJc::.c-. f ut· u~ .. I\ n ~_j ~. C• t r I~ ..
man vJho wc.s t.h(-' p t·es.i.der:t at. t.hat tirr1e t·ec.omrHended tc
my mothet hi :::: nj pc_:e who had :::.till a ye;;u- to go befort·
gt·aduating _ But she was wel l qualified he said . Het·
name wa:::; Miss Leona Gan· et.t. ft·om Del Rio, Texas,
bt·ought up on a t' ar1c.:h _ He1· uncle was the pt-esident of
the school. So my mother thought well t hjs is just a
good thing to do _ Sc she sent for her; vwote to t.he
school and her and she came to live with us to be our
govetT!PSS f or t wo yeat·s _
S! re had to knm•! pi<=mo because my pa~·ents h::od
bought. a pi a no . So she taught us pi a no _ Reir:g bt·c,ught
up or: a ,-anch , l>J E' r·ode h or·seba:~:k evet·y day _ She t.aught
u ~- t.o shoot _ f"1y pat·ents bought us a 22 t·j f} p _ t·J f:' had
t-if le!-y and we had ,-iding l essor1s, piano lessons and
all of the:' othet· t .hings _ Ar:d she lived wjth us _ In
the summE'l' , s he went b ack t o her· t·anch home bu1 carue
b<-tck to us in the f a l l .
!In::' thj,-rl YP<'t t- , ~.>Jr> added ar· t ~.o ~.>Je had to have a
tectrher· who knPt•J at- 1 as wr,l l as piano . And ~; o, l>JP had
g c,v t~ t nt-'0:.~-.. r:'::-: _
Ar1d l n -·;-l]Jy th.ink , r'<·t1rjck , t.hFt t t .hi:::. hH:._: c.cdorpd
l:tll'l ! ,'i .\1:!
H- my l j f t·· _ Jl vFJ: f u rl tl• ]F'~"if'ft t·u1 ii t:!r. ·. C11· .. n _
E1fH.i t.>Jt.• L·H:· t·P c1 t hoffi E:' _ Thvr1 vJr• OJnvr:·d 1 C• tic f. .i fif!r-•;- J r1
n cw t h T e >: <.1 :.:. _ And J ::~t 3:· t Pd t n put·] j r sr hooJ _ J h.oci '"
lit 11 P h at·d 1 im ;~ -:i•::lj w::: t.irrg J ctd_iW7 .tPd tr: 1 t.hP
t·::::titles n <:~ke~ bPii.P!. th ~ ;, J did put.Jit: sr h ry)J u p H wt·r.:->.
P.ut I f j r1aJ] y got .into t.hu :=:L•J .:i r1g pf j t J wr-n t
tht·ough - I had P>:C eJ 1 en t t t>ac hr>: :;: .i r· t he gr a .J .-..
~--:cho~_,] in t1c I< i nney _
But th.::t t ' :.::: g.:·t t j r,g ?.vJay fr em hot->.1 I .:,djust.e>d ou1.
here. Bui. each of the heads of fam i 1 ie:::., of t h i':" ne~:wn
f a nd. l ie:=-. , t.Jhat.evet· theit talents s PemPd , Colonel
RobP t·tson insisted they pw·sue that_
l"i: !he nPgroes wer e stj .l J C:tt thF plac c~, a t the bi~~
hou =':P, t·mr·king a t·ound thet·e, t.Jhen you carN:>':'
R: l·~o , they vJet c-- n nt. li-..t.ing tru,-'t·e t.h0n. They came back
to work f r om time to time _ Thf·Y had moved out of then?
gnv:lu.::tlly, some as late as 1900. Rut. duri r1g Robc.-'Ttsor!'s
l.i feti me, eac h he.:=td of the f ami] y was en:-:·ou:-aged i.o
follow hi :=: taJerli:s and it m21de a nnt·e efficient worker
fot- h irli _ It wasn't alt.oge t. h£":'1' th<::t1 i.j~JPn thr·y left h:is
e>r11ploymer1t, they we n :: ft·e t::d _ Ar:d they L,Jeni. cut in thE·
vJot' l d _ Ne at·l y Pver yone of t .hem got ct VPt-y good jot.
because they liJere txa:ined. P.u1 the hnusp people c::1.ctyed
1 hPr P fat 3~· ye<.=.tt·=~, wot id r"? vJi t .h <1 signPd c c:n t n:::~·1 _ Wl•
h<:tVf· a r or·Y t"'~f evfTY r:nntac-t IIJi th t.hPm <:tnd ~·Jhat thr-"y
w ' I"(-;' t.fl 1:'·1.:' PC1 i d- (It l f thP'/ WPt'!? t (1 E'-'i t j r: i"hP
~.Pt vant '~-. d.ir,ir,g r oon• :ir1 t. h~ - main hou:;.p , t hey vmuldn'1
qr· t a :-. flllJc-h money _ P. 1 J 1 j t ' :.-. L•Jt i 1 i c r 1 j r 1 <1 r on t ,. a r· t· f o t
f;( 1!~ I I; I : ,, ll !
H: them. Or•e w a~. fi1Pd jr, 1J1P Be }J Count y Co u r·thous c·.
I have n o i dPu ~.>Jh e t.het · i hos e h o ve b eer• mi c r o f j l med a nd
thP ot· iginaJ thrown out_ But. Color.e l Robpt· t.sPn kep t a
copy_ We have thos e.
11: Wh en you came to live a t th e=:- Robe r· t s on h o n1C:' a::: a
ko bet· t s on , the bl ad-;.s vJe t·e no longet· the re but they
vJOuld come bo.c.k occasionally t c t,Jork. l s t.ha t c:on· ec t?
R: Yes , t.hey di d . They came b a:..k . I t· emember the
different ones . t-Jot only did the y come back to do the
wod-,, t.he men, in t .he fi e lds. I r·emembet· v e t·y we ll
vJhen my chil dren wer·e gr o~.<m, my daught e t· Cil P mo.1-r-ied
and went bac k to Nas hvill e to live. She c ame home
each summer and went with ~~er Dad down to the lowe r
farm, where Shannon Robertsor• and another one of the
Rober· t.sons . . I 've forgotten t-ds name . - hi s
mothe r was a Roberts on, were working_ When he came to
work he djd not mention hi s fath e r's name at all. He
jus t s aid, "I'm one of the Robe t· t.s ons .
Shannon."
I c a me out vJi th
They went dOl.Jfl tc cut some hay because Shanno n had
a team of mu les . Some of the l a nd down t h e t·e was r·ough
and a trac t or couldn ' t go over it 1.o c.ut t he hay_ So
they we1·e cutt.i ng it. with teams . And he had dt·ive n his
team out. ft· onl Bel ton and bt·ough t. his mowet· and his
wagon. He was campe d down thet· e , wot·kj ng _ The younge t·
Orl (:' ~JJa !:..; wod',ing t.>J.i th him. So wh e n t he lunc h came , my
daught.et· Cile RobPt· t .s on Amtwose and S t e t·ljng , my
hu:::,b .:md, got in 1hP c .:n · 11d th somt-' c o l. d dt· ink ~ . and s ome
:'•1
I ~· 11 ~ I I; 'I ~ ; •.ll·!
R: c.oJd mil k fo r Sh <1nnor, ar1d wr•nt dw<Jrt b ec.c1 u ~~,_. 1 hey
kn£~ w th ey 'd bP E.·o t .i r:p lunc.l t. Wh cr1 t .h ey gCit thet·P, h r.-
h a d a pot going ovet· a wood fin.". Ar.d i r1 t ht-• pot we n ,'
t·oast.ing eat·s c ooking .
Ci lE.· l ooked o v e r· a nd shP t hought it wa~, gn~ c. t. He
had somP butter-; i t l<Jas n ot. hot ; s o h e had it i1
was mel ted . in a j a !-. And he h etd it t-e:,ady to put
over his r oasting ears_ They br ought thi s in and Cil e
sai d, " Sha nnon, I didn't J',n OvJ L>Je had any c-orr1 or1 t .hi s
place_" And Shannon 1 ooked c.. 1 j t .t .l e abashed and said,
"Nome, we doesn 't have any roasting ear s on thi s place _
I bon-owed t .hem f r-om the nei ghbm-." { laughte~- )
M: Mrs _ Robertson, we're going to ta ke a short break
now a nd wh en we come back, Jet' s begin t al king about
yout- chi ldr-en who wer·e b m-r1 here and raised in t .he home
and the holidays in yoUt· f an1i l y , par-ticulat· l y _
R: Hol idays . I n the fall of the yea ,-, the oldet-n
eg ~-oes that. liJet-e living ot.h e t- places would c ome out
and say, "Would it. be a ll ,-ight. fat- u::::: to have a day
down at the s prings f at· our annual p icnic? '' At fir s t,
1 h a d n 't. known abou t t .hat and I s aid, "Well , my hus band
will be in j ust a ny mi nute to t a l k it over but i t sounds
like a grea t idea t o me _" I di dn 't t-Jant t o be too
f orward about g i ving them the run of the place, being a s
1 had ordy been living out then=, about t .hr-ee mo nths, I
guess we camP out t .h ere t n live ma ybE: in May and this
vJas in the eat·} y f .:d J o f thP yea r_ Because th a t' s when
1hey did .i t _ Had thei t- annua l pi c n i c a nd reuni o rt.
,' •". )
I ;t,IH I ;·1! i!Jl,l
11: TelJ me whcd yeC:t t _
f\: .1 9 and ::"7' ; t h t.-> f <tl J of 192'":1 _ !:..>Cl , n i c uu ,. sr-· , it wa:.·.
a n annua l thir,g e1nd J d idn 't kr1 u vJ i 1 _ ThE·y t.Jo ul d h a v e
this do.y at home i r1 Sal ado after they c h e c ked vJi t.h rTI'/
husband. They'd g a ther p ec: arr s ; they could f ish; th E·V
could do evet·y t.h i ng but tw j ng guns t o hunt_ And t .h t:>y
had thE· full d a y d own a t the s p t-ing t.h t:' t"F b Pc.au s P
tha t' s wh at. they di d in the e at· l y d~1ys , vJher1 aJ l o f th e
cot·n c t·op was gat.he t·ed, when al l of the hay vJa s mad(·' ,
when all of tho t. wot· k was done , t .hey a] vJo.ys gave them a
day on the creek.
The same t h ing happc->ned d o wn on t he Bt· a z o s wi t.h m.v,
people. The olde r people said, and it ' s a very good
tet· m: "whe n the crops WC? t· e l a i d b y _" In othet· wot·ds,
when the har vest was ove r, all of the negro, s laves of
my people d own on t .h e Bt·a zos , h a d a d a y on the cxeek _
They fished, they h a d out trot lines a ll of the time .
So did t .hese up h P t·e , fm· t .h e .ir OL•Jn fi s h.
They h a d a day at the cree ~ but a l so a t the s ame
time g a t.het·ed the cane that. the y wo ve into bas kets to
pic k up t .he cot.tor1 dm·m on t .he Bt·azos. WP]], up h et·e,
t hey didn't do that because the y didn't pic k c o t .t.on up
h e re_ You s ee, t h e y did al l of the other work; the
fence building _ _ and mos t. o f the f e nces WPt· e t·oc k
ot· pi c. ke t f e n ce::' _ But they cor't j nt.tPd t.ha t u p u n t.i J the
las t. old one _ S in~ e my h u s band has d jed and i s
bUt· i e d j r1 t h (' fami 1 y buri a l g~·ound, they h a ve t .o c omP
t o rm·· afld J h c:tV!:' a Jw a y ~-: S<-t.i d, "1 ' d b P g.l a d t.c' h avrc~
MRS. LUCILE ROBERTSON
In addition to much splendid information concerning the
historically important Sterling C. Robertson family, there
are many interesting bits of history of the period: Salado,
Texas, politics,slaves, etc.
1:1 Ji ) r r:T ~·; ~ J! '
IL you. And thPy will comP UJ:.' a fterwar d s and o fff.' t
mt~ hu.l f of t.hc p er. art~~ t .hat they h <IVl' get het·ed _ nf
c.ow·se most. of the time I'd say "t..Jo, that ' s my gjft to
you. Take them alJ." '"OvJ there a re no more of that.
genet-a tion _ The last one was Shannort Robet·tson _ And J
noticed his name in the death notices. And rTi ) ' husband
and I have been t.o many of the fune r a l s .
When Sam Robertson died _ . and Sam was the
youngest son of John, and lived in Bel ton. A very
successful busi ness man. Irt fact., my bt·ot.her·-irt-lat.oJ
told me h e would never have made it through Belton h igh
school in ma t.h _ imagine that. _ _ _ if Sam
Robet·tson, t .he negro bat·bet·, hadn' t . t.ut.ot·ed him.
11: Thank you Mt· s . Robet·tson. We're going to t .ake a
tweak now.
END OF TAPE I, side 1, 45 minutes
TAPE I, Side 2
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M: We're beginning now par t 2 . _ int.et·view with
Mr s . Luci l e Robertson, in Salado, Texas . Mt·s -
Robertson, you fir st came to live in Salado around the
beginning of the dept·ession yea t·s , the Gt·eat
Dept· ess i or1 _ Why don 't. we begin thi s af t er noon by
tal king a bi 1". about wha t th at. meant., not on } y to yout·
farrli.ly but to thP peopl e of YOLH" commurdty?
F:: J b e ljeve that the I.>er:n- e s s .i on i s mon-? d e pt·ess ing t o
1;\'J\',J I ~ I : ,1 11!
I.:. f :
H: m E~ , th in kir1g abou1 i t , th e:rt jt was a r. iuaJ] y_ r=o t·
onE· thing, we• we r·e young people· . Ar1d t.h t->n w e~ had b ~· our
irthet·it.ance and tn::i ning a lot oi s c Jf reljanc.E· . Artd
th e n we had the tools at har,cf and t he.:- f<.tc i J.i tie::.·.,
t·esow·ces , tha t people ac tual l y m:-ede d t o sus tain life
t .ha t many peop] e i n c i t.i cs ar.d ot het· p ] a c cs did not
have .
We had fan11 l a nd. We could have g.:.n· dert ~·; and we
did h ave gar· d e n s _ l-Je had cat t.J e so we had out· owr:
mea t. We had s heep_ We had J ocker· plants at thai
time . And I might s ay that ther e migh t have b e e n s ome
govet·nm e nt. s uppor t ir: t .hose locket- plant s . I cannot
r e me mbe r ft· orn that day how they were fit·st. e stablished.
But evet· y communi t.y and every t own h a d a l ocket· plant
that was r efrigerated whereby fr esh meat and poultry,
wil d game ~ was s t.ot·ed t.ht· o ughout. t.he year. Wh t:~ t·eby, in
cities p e ople may h a ve had things like that but being
in a n Jr al community, I'm not so a vJa r e of it.. J knm·J
the t·e we t·e bt·ead 1 i.nes in ci ties. When vJe would go tc
even some of t .he lat·get· c:i t. i es, ~,o.• e we r·e shocked to see
people s tanding i n l ine waiting t o get. some food t o
e at, when WE.· h ad an abundartc:e a nd overflowing.
The De pt·e ssion was underway fo r· some time , ma ybe a
yeat· ot' m01·e , befot·e i t hit homP out h et·e _ J t.
gradual ly calliE' t o u s . I t. affected t. h c~ c j ties a r1d then
j t s pn?a d a nd evet-ybody i r. the countr y tho t h <td far r.;
l a nd s t a r t ed addi ng ex t t·a vegr:t a bl p ~, ; p ] a n t ed food::,
t ha1 they could ea t. Thf' De pnt·t.mF•rr1 o f Agrjc.uJture
I !• 'I' I I ; , .. .. )I:
R: also pu t in JittJp miJ}::, ~.>Jrtt:'l"l'' rwor•lP cnu Jd gt ir:d
gt· ain~,; 1ht• c:cr c<:d ~. , fot t •n:- al·: fo ~·: t fc 1ud~· - l c. <:tit
r·emembe r that_ J was :o;:.., ~::. ut- pt i sf':d 1 n set.=-· t h r- f .i r·st ont=c·
b P-caust' I had been accust.orned t Cl buying boxe ::-. of
cer·eal_
The man vd th th t? Agt· i c:u] t.ural Depat· t.meni .in Bel t. or1
had a little rHill and he showe·:l how cet· t.ain gt·a:ir' ""'
_ a nd it. rnust. h a ve been i r1 the lllaize family _
the small gt·aj ns, t.hat. could be put in and gt·mmd and i t
made an excellent flavot·ed br-e akfast. food _
But we did not suffet· as far· as the necessi ti es of
life_ But I t·ernember, vJit.h gr·eat a stonishment, my
husband going down to the Post Office in Salado to pick
up the mail. As he came back in and walking down the
wa lk, he had a young teenage boy with him and the story
was: t .his boy L<Jas hi t.chhiki ng ft·ocr: Oklahoma t .o an a unt
and uncle in San Antordo_ He had g o tten th at. fe:n-hi
tc:hhi king and somc~body had put hin1 uut of a car a nd
he hadn't anything to eat and my hus b and asked :if v.JP
could make something for· h im o r i f I could do som ~:thi ng
fm· him fm· tweokfast_ We'd had breakfast an h o ut· o t·
so b efm·e _ I cooked pancakes and tha t young ma n a. t e
1 ike he was s tar·v ing _ He ate part c akes and a t.e
pancakes_ Ther1 he went out c:tnd h c.d ped my hus band do
socr.e thing and tf11~ n ]eft, hitc hhik i ng on south_ ~ t- om
tha t. doy orr, scat·ce}y a wr• r::>k pa:::.::::ed th <d vJe didn'1 have
UweP o t· four penp] e that. J m<.1. dP pane ake:.- f o r _ I found
th<:J t t.oJ i'tS the' quic kPs t ar1d tt1P vet y Pa!:, ie:-; t. t.oJ <-tY t.o 91ve
... ,·
J;••J--.J !.; 1'. :• 11!
f\: sonrPorH:' an i mm~'d i C1 t e fl lf:'<.t J .
WP had l ots of honey and wt· had syt·ur-'; c111d thing~.
o f thC~t sm·t t o go with t .hem . And 0 ften, though, if it
we r e another· me<:il bP si de~. bre a l~ f as 1. , J ' d 1 i >: sausage or·
bac:on or· some th i ng l ike that. t o g o wi 1h j 1. Wr::• fed
lot.s of peopl e dut·i rrg the Dept·es!::.icm that ju ~: t. came c:ff
the t·oad .
As a rul e , t hey would imme d clt.ely o f f er· to do son;e
wod·~ in t·etw·n for j t. Someti mes t.h e r·e was cf c:ho r·e
that the y could do and some times ther·e wa:::: not. But.
most of the people were gr·a teful that. you had given
them some food . I did one time , find a lady waH~ ing on
t .he t· oad wi t .h a baby in her ar·ms and a li tt.le child
c J.inging t o het· ski 1· t s . I pi cked her· up and br·ought.
her home wi th me. We had t he long r ow of r ock houses
ou t s ide_ The fir st. r·oom was fut· n i s hed as a bedr oon1 _
Sh e s t ayed ther e overnight . The next d ay , I got. our
loca l b cn· ber· t o gi v e the J i t tl e boy o hair cut_ I got.
c lothes f rom a n eighbor . I didn 't. have _ _ my lit tle
b oy hadn' t b eer1 b o t·n t .h e n a nd I had no clothes for th ~-:
li ttl e boy. So I got t h en' all a good bath; ft·esh
c lothes on them a nd I b ought. t.h en1 a ticket f m· the bus
myse]f fo r- t his l ady to g o on down to Austin_ Het·
sist er had said if s h e coul d get t o h e t· house that. she
cou]d takP car e of h e F but. tha t she did not h a vE' funds
f or· a bu~; t .i cket _ 1 foun d h e1 orrt" Novembf:' t· evening,
ven' l att: , wa lking f t·om Bel t on t owa t·ds Salado. J w a~~
dt·.hdng .in t o po~_,t. sornr-: J t:• 1t e r ~7- jr, Br-:] t.l'n. /;ftPr rny
. '
1:,_·>111"1: I ~.( ti I
R: ]etters WPIP pos ted an;;:l I s ta rt ed homP J c ouldn'1
t.hink <tbou t comi ng back t o my vJC!I' fll r:ozy h on1P and thi~,
woma n l.Jit.h a b <:tbY in h e t· anus and"' lit t lE· fellov!
c 1 i nging t o her s ki r· t. we:d ki n g in th et t. c old , t~ovembet·
n :tin _ So J picked them up and bt·ough t theni home vJ.i t.h
rne. They we n t on the it· way_ t~r?.VP !' heat·d of th e 111
s ince , o f cm.u·se.
Bu t. sevet·al li tt.l e things like th<:tt h c1Ve happened
1n my life. The Great Depression is s ome thing th a t i s
hat·d t o t .ell peop l e t .he r igo r·s and what it. r·ea l J y mean 1.
unless they lived at. t .hat time . Ever1 sma llet· c.hildr·en
that lived th r ougt, the De pressi on have vivid memories
of it_ Because t het·e was a s hot· tness of evet·y thing
tha t vJe had had plent.y :i r: t his country_ i-Je wonde t·
sometimes how we c ould l et our economy get into s u c h a
pos i t.ion that. we would be t.J-wown int.o an econo mic
dept·ession _ And yet. J unde t·st.and t h a t it is a
possi biljt.y in n e arly arry c.ivili zati or1.
M: Thank you_ That ' s a v e t·y t .ouch i ng stot·y about thr::­l
ady and het· c hildt· err on the t·o ad , Mt·s _ Robet· t s on _
When you began to live in Salado, was it the samP
sized c ommunity it i s n o vJ in l o::JB~· ? l-Jho vJe t·e your
nei ghbot·s? How ma ny s hops we t·e the r e in town? Whe t·e
did peopl e wot· k?
R: l.Je were ce1· t.ai n.ly fii UCh s mal ler wh e r1 1 fir s t. ca.n1 r:: t o
live . WP we r e a l it tl e , s leepy t own_ WP had been
fou rtded a round Sa Jado Co llege and th t: mill ~- 011 Saladc'
Cr eek . Irt thP e ~1r l y days the econ omy W<1 : .. f t·on t. i (-' t·
;, I
J;t•f .1 I ' r: :1 .,,!
I ' . \ - economy_ !.-)(;· vJC-•J f-! bui 11. a rourtd 1 hP m i 1 J .in~'
:indus try. Then:• ~.>Jen:"' nine mill s Clft c:l Pvert mi l£:: ~' of t h e:'
Sc.tladu Ct-eek_ And thPY we t·e flout and mea l n.ill s _ Tht:
fc:n-mc·!-s vmuld bt- i r.g in t.h ei t- c.on 1 clfld th ei t- wheat a rtd
it l>Jas mi ll ed irtto fl out and into nteaJ _
The rt the big ~.>Jago n s would come i r1 and 1 oad vii t.h
ban-e l s o f fJ ou r and mea l t o go t o the fo t-t.s i n thE·
we st._ And t.o the west ern tovms f or deli v e ,-y. So there
we r e more wa y s thar1 one t o make a Jiving to s tar t with _
But none o f the t-owns in Texas wet·e lat-ge b ecause at.
the time th a t we had b e en through the four years of the
l.Jat- Between the States and t.h e rt had come back into the
Union. we h a d t o have out- con s ti tut.ion l>Jr i t.t.en again _
Colonel Robertson was elec t ed from Bell County and
ft-om Lampasas County as a delegate t .o help wt-i t e t-he
con s t -itution tha t ~.>Je 't-e living undet- t oday_ There
wererr' t . e nough peopl e in Lampasas t o elect t -he it- own
d e legate so they h a d t o e lect some one else a nd they
voted f o 1- Colone l Robet-tson _
Thi s economy h e ,-e was a fJ -ontier e conomy_ We had
s t a y e d a lmost i n that s hadow. The c o llege was the
fit-s1- college on the ~.>Jhol e ft-ont-ier _ It was organi zed
a :::: a co- e ducatio n a l, non-de r:omirra t.l ona l college _ Thet·e
had bee n mar1y , mc:;r:y c o l J eges es t.abl i s hed, usuaJ 1 y by
rhut-c.h s uppo t-ted schools a nd t hey got c hurch mor;ey _
But 1 his t.o.~a~~ n ort--dc->nont.in a t i ono J _ Th ~y couJ d not
rec.c ]ve church money _ It. was c.o-educ~tion~l - 1 n thf'
Pat J y sc hoed s , 1 hPr P wC' r P boys ' sc:honJ s and t h £:• t-e wr-:1 e
r;.,l .. l.!n: ,•li\
H: girl s ' s d .ooJ::-,_ P.ut se}don: E'Vt>t- did b('~ )'S and 9jrJ:·
go t o 1 hP Saffle s c hooJ _ !\ut t ! 1i ~ OTJt·? Wi':l~, o t Qdfli i' t··d :ir1
that f ashion, cp-E·ducat iona J and rtor1 - d c non:inat i CHlal. \.>Je
we n ? the o n ly sc:hcJol on t .hr,~ t-JhoJ e fn:.mt.ier _ Thi s vJciS
l ong befm·e we had UT, Aus tir1; Jor1g before we had Texa::.
A&l·1_ The c.hut-c.h-suppm·ted sch ool:::, well, t.hE::'Y hadr1't.
gotten bn:~ve enough to come up t .o the front jet·.
l hen l at.et· , o f course, <'Jf t e t· thE:> War , we had
SouHn.,est et-rl to come up to Geo~·getO I•Jn; Bay J m· t.o \.Jaco ;
a nd Bayl01· t .o Bel ton. And gradually t .h e f t·ont i et· moved
fw· thet· west and left us h e t·e _ We L•Je t·e l eft, possibly,
with t .ht·ee ot- fout· hundt·ed families. The old farnjlies
ft·om the vet·y beginning t hat t·ept·esented Salado in the
eat· l y d ays t .h a t. we r·e stil l h e!·P when I carne het·e, werr~
the Aike n famjly_ CoJ.onel He rman Aj ken had surveyed
the t own si t.e of Salado for Col o ne l Robet·t.son, when he
donated and endowe d Salado College with a gift o f a
hundt·ed au·es off his ft· ont~ pastw· e_ And on t.en acres
of the one hundred act·es , he laj d out. t .he tm>Jn s itt> of
Sal ado. He called on his ft· i end, Colonel He r· man Aiken
to survey it f or him. And Col onel Aiken s urveyed it and
made the f i t·st map of Salado _ The m<:q::} is dated t~overnbet·
25, 1 ::: a nd s·~ _
M: 1s Sal ado College build.ing ot· any t·emr:an t of it
~~till located ir1 Sct lado t oday-:-·
F\: Th!? ColJt?gr· flolll·jsht-•d until the S t atP- s uppo tt.ed
s( h ool~.; s1<1t ·ted comj ng .i rd r• ti-d:~~ a t· f:' c:t- Artd t .he c:h ut·ch
schr•ul s ~: 1 i'1 1· t.Pd ( f11Hi r:g up t n CE'n 1 1 ctJ 1 ex a ~~ . ThPn , the
~ ' ..
r~: st.ud•.•rd !=•DPUL..ti jcHt W ·'\~·. dt ~jrJ('t~ L · or .. tl:.i ~· f:c· l Jt··q · ·-
l:-lut ii.lrr:u:.t lrli lf•t' dj;-11~>.1 ~' , "fc•UJ ;'t··at · ~. <:<fiet ll l C1f.•C·' rtc•d ,
~; .~ 1 d,tjt) C(J J l tH~_J.•-! ( J OSt?,j j t '::-. d( )1
• r:· ~ llLl ~ i n:nled j ::J t f~ l ,, operto(j
iht:·ffi a~-; c.t f.irw , r-·: ivai.e high ~~chn c..l, L~;]Jprj i ~tl' lhorr:;:;~ .
ArrPJ]t) HiQh Scttc.z,~Jl _ l! i _ JflrtF::. LoJ.:·: -:- th~ ht:'cJ ni.::~ .:.t t:·: _ Dt _
:Torte:-!::::. wa:=:. ai; F:"rtgli<t tE:-·at.hEr ;:1i Ul, A:.Ist jn_ t·tr I cf fir-·
did i-~ "J i E- :XCi::iJy li{ :C'" i~:E· 01.fLC,~~r-,f·Jpt-E· ~;f the r c,j}~") ·~..,!- · ~ (_l'.
h.is qi_Liet faH:ily .. ::,u he C<'!fl tr.~ t o th C:' villagP c1f Sa.1c.!du,
J e<:t:. :. ::E-d t[, ;_.,. Cc.J lege t•u .i J di ft9 and or.'(-'ned his p:- i v:::: t e h .i g~,
sc.hooJ _ and hP named j t. after· t he ht:•etd master 2t i F-:ugt•:.',
Thomas t'iTro l d _
lrt t=r:gland thP put·Uc schools are act.ually t.h P.
pt·i v<:~i.e schooL: .. Rugby t:J::ts onP of t.he f ir;e schoo 1::::-.
ovet· t.het·e ar1d Thcmas ArnoJ d wa~::: the hc-:-ad maste>t- _ Dt _
Jorres gt·ea t l y adrr:i t·ed Thontas h t-rtcld. .- 1.- • 1.- • ::io 11e name<J 11J :~
p:·ivate high school c::.1t on the f!·ontiet- of Salado ,
Tf10H!d.::~ Ar·noJ d-
Thi~:. high :"'.d;ool v!Eb Et r. · riV~i1e)y suppor i Fd ~, c hoo.l
cH;J vJ'7 had or, ~· h P!"~"~ t.i J J ·~' 1 4- In J 9 14 , thF c nl JegP
building c=trP..:i the pr·ivate hi gi·, s ( hooJ ~.J n:::.: gjv.:,·r, t.o thE
pu!.d j c sckH.d s _ J t opEmed and thPy le1. it bw·n_ AnJ,
t:muldn' 1 you know, they di dn' 1 J Pt. it bu t·n onc:e but
thre(~ times that colJPg~·· building burn ~d - T h ey ~ d
r-ebui.ld it . . <:tn•i buj.1i nut of li me:::~ t.or1 <:·' :·oc k . nw
h c. t f i 1· f !:", C.0d:; .. ecj 1.fp~ t' 0 ~. 1'. ~ .-, Sh<~] { and YOU [:. r;qi,1 l,.j(~ m ~~~·: r·
J iut' · t •y but-njng J imf·· ~< to r r £· r or L . t'.rtd ~.o thr · n.1in ~. of
t!JP tl•.11r~ g•· c. tt= · 011 Co]lpgr· Hj} i t nd;:1y, t· ight south r; f
1 hr· r·:r-'rt 11 ;.t.l ·Tl ·):<'i ·. t"it !··.r·Jtffl.
! ' · 1 ht:• (' cunp u· ( 'f
. J • r ") ~-· r · t l I "· ·:.. ) ( :.1 i J 1 1fw ~·-- / \ !. .. , ..: \i d
td lru ~. t t·r :,.. r: n:.~ t•t-·l 'rt i l>t np·· ,-j a nd i t h .o.:·. t"-. t <-.l! J i :~h c-t3 a
f ound,;t 1' j =~n . lhr· c- a mp;_r-. C1rt0 -thr- t ·ujn~::: <q· r:- jr, 1hf-· h3nd· ..
of <~ non- pt llf j 1. f ound;:ti .i e:r, -:-.o 1 h .::t1 t h>::>y c l'J!: b r> r ·1· c:t cc ic-c
t.tnt.1 J J:.'(JSS i t1J '/ ::.ont ~"1 hj ng r: c:;n tr (-' dC1fJ f"' ujth t hr-rt:- The:
Poc.: r0 c,f Tru~. t r ·p~· h<:1::-. r- ·.l.:!r,::. i. c1 t·c·- Or.'E'n C!! i (' tJr'C:'!l t.. ;.:.JL:·;
thi-oug: lf'lU t i f1 F· c an1 pu~~ . t~J f ~r, ~·r-. ..... / i~- j t ;:fr ~ .-~r ·d ::~ t u~~·:·r~ t · . t Gr"'!
t.Jalk th!·ousrh to ::o.iu.::ly the: p1 ::mts. the ti'PP~., the- ' . ~.r1 r ut ~s 1
t.i tP lj 1 t l e ~1 n j rh.. '. ll := ... Ir: f.;.Jr t , t rH? Der;.:-"1r tra€~nt c,f
Agrjc.u l fu re rr a!?~ fo ~- d Y£:'0}-~S 2:.1Ltdy') ]_i. ~:: ted E•\/Pt .. }' trE·r·
th a t they have found on the· cau.pus, evt-'ry shn.!h, t.h t.""
~·J.i.ld fJ.otoJ C:Ts, the gn:JSse:·; , a nd vjnes . T!-!c··y r~ c~'·./t:' a l ~.CJ
made ct l.i s 1. o f all the- bi 1·ds and they h.::~ vE" c hecked at
lea ~~t C•f!Ce -3 week ar:d sornP i irnr-:s c~f t E'r1t-'~ .. , f o r orre fi . .!l]
yeai· _ And t.r·,ey waul d make pic. t.ut·es ar!d the y <H P j n
s J ir:lPs nm.'. Be:=.jc!es Htl,. tdn::!s , c:.l l t.ho littJe anirnz:ls
l ike sq uj~ .. t-el ~ .. t .. ;:;t;t}i t-:=., a r madjl Jo~-::-. ~ P\.'(.:l!f c fa rniJy t;f
t"ed f !~ x arP l_i\/i n ~} UJ:' 1.f-tpr· e ir~ t.f-it~ ruirt> -- l i"r t:~Y havE
c:o: tn·ed sJ j d t.:s of t ~ t .=-s c ~-,: o whert th E:• t n.1::. t t--e:... g ;.:.:· t eno!..lg~ ;
mc1r:ey int c• t.hv four:d.:t t.:iorl 1·::· l ay C•Ut l•!alk ~. , th e ~ -P. ~.>!iJ.l
t.~~ iege r:d~::: ur!d;:'f~ ~) le x i':,;.;la~.s, C;t- glass ., ~.Jt tftE~ tH:·gj r;r tjrig
uf evel--;--' ~>J.."J Jk t.hat wjJJ p os~:- ibly sav, "Dc1·m t.h:i ::. tTnil
you tlli 1 l sr-•f::>: ,-ed c- e d.::: t· , Arlll::'t-jcar: e lm, LivE:· oa! ."
t-Jha t eve:· !· j :.:. t ~wr r· ... _ with o n umt.et· a ti.a c hc<i t :~ ii. a nd
ther1 p o:-:;sibJy d n um!r~:t rl!-':'1 1.crdr:g th;:!1 Ort!:.' or : thP tt·e;.:. ur
tht · ~:hn.1t., f o t ~:. tu .::k:rtts til w;:t.l l·. dc.--.~;m <.trtd c, ,:o·(· ihc .. ::-: r:> _
P.u1
~ lwi t ·
J' i • loJi J .1 h :iV(" t.r1 t,·.· _ t ~, r \·-.( · l· u ii: · , U:<:11 ar P
f •ll! 1f i cd , k >r e; J J~-r.· thr·y <'ti (• ·.i iJ 1 f cd J.ir'>;'
h: Clfl'j li'tt'Tt'':. ~t"t.:-' c~d •:l.:.trtf:Wl th .-11 p r·c· ~··h· t-;j]J i• L' hi t t>;·
cmr· c•f t l1f· :·or. L~ <1: .. ji loo~.;·r , ~~ and i<d.t~ / .. 1 ::.u, j f ! : h:··
det~,: -j:·-. , t .hP n t· ch a eoJog i ::. t s h ~;V( setjd th:-,d jf H P fn (' ·-.r ;~ !ht:·
dr.bri!':· 1 jght n o l·J , th.:.tt o 1.1 cf the ~..>w ll~. ,,;c;uJd t urr:b l r
d ot,m . 1hc.i son:•-" <:nP t.c-.i n g heJd jr; r.·Jacf.:: t:.y trw faJjpr;
st.·~ n e arr•.:i of t hl~ d c·t·r .i ~- - f;] ~.~f~~ , i 1 j ·-:.. <.1 h C\.,ei! f Llt
r·r,tt }esrlct~~.es tct ]j \'t:' i rt tf1c:·.?.r- fdl l eri ;-:-.," :·.~~ .. ~-::c, t frf:'\l' r
i ~-: dangE:"f- _ And urtiil i t c. c.r; h e safpt·, t.hv l~o-'i r d of
Tt u::-.1 ees h a ve~ asb.::·d that peor:•l r not rom ~: c:r: tc> tht'
campus.
M: Thank y ou _
t1r·s _ Robet· t sor: and J had J ur:ch cd the· fr::rnous
St .::tger.: c:a.cJ: Inn to..::icy _ H~ d a beau t:i ful lunch_ During
t h.:d . time: WP h3d an oppm·tun~tlY t::-• t.:::;lk at·out our
f t· iends and acquaint ar:ces we h a ve al.1 cvE·r the s t a t 8 _
We r ·r o ved , in one l u nch p e :·i od, that it i s ;:1 srn<:d l
vJO! J d be caus e~ v.Je kr: ct~ <::: Jot of peoplt=:· in common_
One o f those pe 1·~-u rc j s Li 7 CP.q::·er:i e t· (:f t,ust.j r:,
not·!. Mt· s . Robertson , t·e l1 u s a LtilP b i t. about y:...1LU
t"Pl ationsh.ip a.nd mr-:mo t·ies of L iz .
R: vJ.::?l], o f a.l l t he p eopl e I've knm·:r;, cf cout·:::;E· , L i 7
J:::. one· of t.ht:· most i nt.Gt· e s t jng one:·:_ Ar:d continues 1.o
r,p - Rasic.al]y t>J\-' a:;::t·ee on most e v ETy t .h jr:g_ I n fa c.t. ,
fiiY p h.ilo::;op h y .i~. h Pt· pl;i]oso;A;y, t oe, _ ~vh ( ' ft I f j t ·~ ... r
n:.; :t·ied h r:T urt ::.h' , :C; t.et J j r,g r.:. Ro b et· tsm :, Lj :z w :=1:.~ ju ~·. t.
<r J j t 1 .1r-· '!iny g irJ; i:l v e :·y w_i ~tfu l, .loving J .ittlt-· g ir .1 .
Ar;d bc., rn QP ~~ut hPr J <.1 rtd i >· h(·t· t •t·n tJwz _ Gc•nr ~~<'-' Hnt•r't t :.~C'lrt
~; u t h· ·•· L :rtd . . lU:<1 <I }_ittt f' b.it }'('I! Hl~ (' j th;\fl l i 1.
f;: ~,tf.• t J ir 1 ~~ ~r:d J .:_,~ (.; yo;His:' nlc:t t j,_ r! ( Ct!J1-•] 1. l•J>'! (
lorle~o,orr:c· <• Jc.~t . or 1jr.lc--~. (lU 1 Dfl th·· ].' :r:::.il ~,. r. t>:•· L')~lul d S' t
Lj z ar1d Ger1l-gt_..· 1 cJ c.umt.. .. artc~ s1.~~:' L~i~ti u ~_ fL~r tt~Jr) c;: t~1r P~
t.·:eel~~-- t.-J!J f' it ::::he· ::- 1 <:11·t ~;•d I c.• S( h or:.1 , J 'J j h<=tvf· y::.tu i ::.:
knol•j , t.hat het· gn::ndmut h c-· t· ~-Clid . "H•.-• 'te g:.>ir12 to n:;_;~J-Lj:~
~-CHifc· r1etJJ c lo1ht~~- 1-clr S:,r~l !:: !1. •: :::::: i t ft=-.l] 1-l• fl l'/ ] r.t
t u go shopr:•jr,£0 f1:1" Lj7 tc ·:;;:-1 ihP H:.iriD>:; frq· h• ·t t.-:
::::.t ?.t· t. sc- h ooJ_ And I l~(:liT!C"'fi! tH:?t · trJhj~.;~'jr~g Jete cJrr 1-H. 'l'
~·an t.i t=::s l1Jhen :.:JP? s t.at ... teet to s~-~tocJ _ "J!.". "l'.'f iQ\jQf"• "it t}! !"_l
gt·ar:d1!J01 het· we::-:. a SE!amstTess but it t t.wned out th<:lt. j i
was her idec. <.;nd I dj d t.he set·:ing!
Ru t i•:>:: got L.jz to s c.hc•cd all t·ighL Thcrr she:• g1· et•J
up and tht·ough h er· high schoo} .j .=-:iy~:. sfH:~ wa ~, a \ter y
out.-gcd_ng lead!?r, both j n h E·t school and in he· ~- chu:·c:h.
The r1 by the t .ime s he got Univer si t y age, I ' d go
shc:ppi ng wi t.h Liz_ And then Liz vlou l d bt· j ng het· b o y
ft· i ends up 1 n the f ami 1 y ttonte in Sc.lado _ Tf-,~-:t t j_ :~ L i. :L' ' ..:.-~
h OfllC', t.uo , I•Jfl(' r· E· J ] j Vf.' _ /.:.,]though it i S OI.H pt· ope!· t Y,
Li z vJ a s boJTi thf· t E: _ Sh(:~'s tJre Clrt J.Y ortr:.-> of tf1{:) cf: j 1..-:!rer:
of t.h ,:,. t f c:tr!!ily t:ho was bon: then=:-_ Ht=: i· rncthcT <"!flO
f at.het· L•JP t'~ moving b ac: k tc• SaJ.ado _ M·;: mothct· - in- J cli.J
~·J a~-- so vJOtT i (.•d that Liz' s mothet· would be lift.i.r:g
things , t.JC)u l d do sorr:eth i n·~ t.he<t :=-.h e shrn1 J dn' t that she
bt·nught h r-• r hc•rTH ' l•J j tl1 he:_ /~rF:l thc:tt. i s heM Li;
hctppenr d t.::• b t· t ':lt r: ir: uui hl."~!l~-~.' .
~ ~~ lt-J L j i ' :o. mn the r h a,j t•l ·r·n b cn·r, t.h c- l'f-' y E.~{1 r :-:.. <:1~.:;n _
t\l:d Li 1 ' ::. g; ·<'tr !df-~t1JH•l vJ.": ·-· I.H•! r, th'-·ll'. ArH::l h e· ~ gt ~· <t t
~~t< • r,rlr.< n ,n 1 ' . , L:u]t •rn.· l ~~r:dH: :-. . EliL>~. '! t ~-.ur 1 , t•uiJt th · ·
f: : r I J c'H (.• ~ ~· C.l 1 C~<rt CP.t'L .. ;.ir JJy Ufldf. T·· . t c rld h t·l ]nV! ' .:::HI•.-1
f c·•t:'l ing , f L' r ~~::-. ~:h t· ::,<1;-'':'· , "wy holiH·· ." .·1 1 I r_•<.t ,! .' l '/ J. ::. I- ,c ·t
home_
f·k·>·J L i: i~- n rH' vJj t h thi::. fe: · t.iJr· inkJgirlclt ic'n <:·. ~ ..
YOL! krt (-'\:.; ., tJ.Jhert '/{)i...t r· e ::t~j h e:~ :;~r j l i r:g en yc)!_I t·,t~ ·3t · t:c·r
t.<:t.l I: .. E-ui t h er·e , ~- a 1 Wet ';':"- <-'. qood c::;r <:d r1 c• f c OfiiHIOrt sen s.c-r
· ur~rd rrg t h r·ough h~-"l st ot· j e :-:. If y pu i·ead t h e- J <:~s i or,• .. ·
C)rt /;gi ng , j1 '~.: fHY J=>f-til OS()p{:y 0"'../C· r· Rf!\j ( l \ter-_ L j z cctl J (JtJ
111t:· by t e ler;,h c1n e 21nd . - J Sdl ~~ , "D j d yr_)U t·ead ti-: r.~ st cn·y r
wr·ote?" :r t o l d h e r· I C: P t-t ai n ]y d id .. "Ho :'-J d i d yuu 1 j k ~ :
j t ? " I said, "Gt·ea.L I t' s m·'{ philosophy , t oo ." I f
you' t·e b usy, you 'r·e g oin g to be <.; con t ent Pel per sor; .. BP
busy, be wi1h people , a nd Liz l.i v e s t.ha t ty pt:~ of c\ ] i -f c:-
~ . . -
And she ' s as b usy as ~a n bP . I u n <JETst c:rtd s he f:.:;s just.
sold t hP t· j ghts to hPt· lat est. book fm· a s um t.ha t is
stagger ing_
M: Tha t' s l,Jonde t·ful _
t-'1~·~:_: _ RobE-:·t·tsorr, l'-Jf:> WE:- r e t a lkin<;.} a l sn , dw· :i ng
lunch , abou i sam•::> of you r t t· i p -:-. t o Austin . /~n d y c:;u
t•Je t·e te l ling n1e h ot"' oft.Pn y c•u h a v E-' beer: i .Ci /~u!:'.t in and
influe nced t h (-" dni rr g:::: and happe nings of our -:::.1-<:<te and
evt::n , a t t ime:;, s<:tv i ng m<:t.ic:t· mcJrH.WtPn t s .. On P o f t ho=--t--
wnr ,urneri t. eo I' d 1 i ~-;e f ot· you 1 c' c:r,mmelr 1 on thi:::; aft e l·n n on
L·Jnu l d b e t he old Gc-npt·a l l.e~nd (;ff j ~p P.!d }ding .. Could
yn:t tpJ} rTIP h ( tt·! YGU ::.i n g i r::- h andr--·d}y saved thE: Lar,d
:·i ( i i r: P Bu:i J d .i r''-=";·;
Fi : f' ;d ,· jr k , rrtl nrrr · doP~7·. c:rrv th i n c' "O:, j n g l r·-- h an d edJ~.-_ J
djd Lir tcl c• f J E.· <.•d ihc-· r-hct t· g · · , j f ih;_d .i·:~ a cm· t·pr 1 l.·i <~Y t o
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[, - ~-:-.~1 ~~ ] r r -~d j f ! 1 h r· f.';.:p•:·l t he t t; '' (.~Pr!l:-! ._,] ! <~ r 1 ~~
llf i:if C' l>Ft:~ gn _irt:;_~ 1lt l>t· tr_, t" ll dl:\.)il h l i•~ ;-, f •;dl· . .irt·. ~ }rd f-·~Ji
thf-' t' (-'_ ThE· L eg:i sJ;-J t Cil !'· rt Pf-'dr-'o:l <:~ J=•Jc:Jr · p 1<: p.:ir!· 1 1;::-:i 1·
r:.:<:t t ~- _ /.\rtr.l l said, " Thr->;' ra.n ' i de; 1lt.:-t1 t•.:td II .. /
h tJ·::.t}~-tr~·J, \.'e ~-y ~-:- ~ e t· r t ]y ::::~-:id 7 .. l·!fia1 ; .. tt-~· yc'! :_: g .·_1jr•·~ ir:~ cJ~_,
c' l:•i!Ut i 1 ':•" vJelJ . J: krtl'l·J] h<-:d t.c • dc1 :".Clf!IC·1h.in;:•. } h d l:
aJ t F·ady put m·?· J i r:E=· ou t t h::i\. t·:c cnuJd:: ' i i t··.:-. : it d::) lJ:':_
Ar1 ,~_.. t·Jd y T I taJ \?rt t i.rJ a I!act ~~h 1 e t; s rs f 1 h L~1 F:c·f-H.JL) 1 j c C• f
Te x~ ~. rnc~t= t i ng ir! Ty 1 e t : Texc~ . ... It \.l; :-1 ·::-. ;:-, ::. t -::.! i f rn~:>&· t i fj G
o f the:· So ~.,. rd c f !·1o rt c:gt? rn t:-·n t _ I h<:Pf='E:'ned t r 1 b E:' or, t hP
Roat·d c f t1a n agemen1 f en· t.h j o--. di ~ tr .i :~ t fc·l· n.=.ugh t e r s of
t h~ Republi c of Texas. t\ri<i t i ~ e , ~e wets ' ' . i:i oF·::.u- J ao .. ;-·
t.h ~t-E· , or·~ e t.ftclt :~ t.•2t-li rt g a r1d 1 r·ea11 ~' tt·r{)U9~l i a l ot c.f
a 1'1~-s- H~J li e.: F r c)ycn- Fr.:~ r ·~-y _ :;r-u·.) l.1Ja~= ~i c.u l J.=-t t e t· ::.}
desc:Pr:dart t ::~f S t ep~p?·r' F _ h t.i·=:1 i ri _ f1i ss H.:jlJ ie ~;Jr~~~. a
\/ (-"!" y gC:( r(j f r-- i ern:! of rn i rH.=· t )f:C CLlSe I rrad ~.F}'"/I?f! PE'I_)j:J} e C1 f
my fcmiJy th ~: t t<Je re ir: t he Old Th r-eE· Hun d n?..::! i n t .hr:
t: tl ~3 t. j r1 Cc)J C;rt';-' _
Sc: 1 t·~'F' r! i. t ::; t1.i :: .. ~-:-.. Hf[ 1 J j r~ an<} J . !
::-~.H .1 ~ .1" ~ 4 ~ Li ~~ s H Ct J J j F· ,
tt--~ e y;}·p gc."j n? t c' tc· .:1r t hc 1 L.Gr:t} l)ff j~ . e dow1~ ctrJrj I f-~2:1 \U->
C'81 t · _l (jfJ ~ .. C,Pl0 th j r:g O [ ;::_!! t1 j 1 .. 1 '"../ t: ~~1 r ez.u.-1y t>c··t~ri t c:
Austin and J hnvP. a goc:d spon:::ot· t ha t wi }J. ~;n- ite 0 t,j_ll
i C1 :0.2.\.'P j t _ f:-:u t , ~ r-? h <.--<vc t o gei some- s 1 t·rqgth b Phind
j t . 1\ r! rj ~~tff:-: sa.i=.-j: u ~J c~jJ , t.:h~-tt ' : ... yc:ur jr:t ~ \ct~ " l so j d,
" l"i';-· jJ._.r.l j :. 1l, .. <f t-H~ ;-dr'r1 t!• (' D;-t:_;r.;h t e l ··~; nf thr · Rr->put..Jj,-
,_,f lc:·>:e~:-.; 1 h•.-· ;)(ll'l:-. :,f t h~ · i--:..:-~>~ti·J j,-; th~-· Dr:ugh 1 •:--; : . r:1f
t ht · Ct •r :f~dl~!c:•Y~ n r;d H "· -:-·.llr :· . of \ h r· f:nr:f r~dt-· t ~ r y _ t-;rtt..:!
ift-. 1 L·J • · hctvt:· ;; un i t>··. ·! •' ·f1 =ll1 i r• J ,-,r_,t_,.;' f·•'f"l ;' J\.'';d,,};.dn:
I I ·I ! I : ~ I, _I! J
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1 l r t • flt(l1 j c:rt <:rr r•.i ] '1 1 <---;r•r nrrd .it I~~ :' i ·r nk' '1t· 1f,, . tij·~t ic)r;
Jrr 1lt ~-:· lylt:·t· ~.J on rc.r: ' ·:, CJut· th <-tt t·Jt.· .irtv:i:~: · i l1v !'.a<:ugh\01 : .
nf 1i:r.· Corrfc' dP t· a~y it• jo i rt vJit!t u:~_. jr; gr:t1j r:g a t, j } J
thrr1u~h 1!n.J Lpgj :_.. . ] atur.-:· tt:s =~~ \/f:"" art,j tP::.irJ ~ F' t ttP c;J d
b E·nera} ;,nd (tffi ..:c~ i r; /.-,u: .tirt.
r;rt ,) c; f cou1se, n,y ihe:::..L:, L·J.:~-=- 1 h.::•i Uit' L3nd :' lf]j!
J ~~ i ~ P-~ ()] :jr.) ·~ t. t;!-:.1\!F;~t- f! Oi<-"fi t tn_i j J din I~ 1 E' f t !,-. t orlr':i i r:·:; l n
Au~.t j_rj _ Ii ' s t.h~ ortJY t1ui Jc!ing t:uj l t t){--'fl .. irr-:. t. ~!,-"' W.:.- . ~
Bet.t>Jeen Hti? S t ates . ::. t was dr:>si gned b y -':i ypung Gc.' r-mC~n
emjgt· an t who CcHHG t o thP L•Ji]ds uf T Px a~. t c; fot·get <.in
unfurt.t.mate love a ff a ir th-:': t he hod had i.n Germai-;y.
Ther1 t )esj des that t-on;0 r~i . ic· pe-n· t c,f it . .. i-:t:· !-tc~·j l:H)t# ~·.e"i a~.
a d t·c::ft:::;n:an ti ''~ t-e in the c ld L<:ind Ctff ic_.r:-·. And SC' he·
madt:· thP p} Ein :'=. fo1· the n t-:>i;..! orte a nd t .h ey we t·e ace epted
b y t. he 8 o<:-11·d. And afte1· it. vJ <-c.,; put up, ~: evP t·aJ farnou·-:
p r~ ~·-~:c•ri D g.:-.. ~, \.o.JD t- ~·~c·d j_r: t.t-~8t f·_ Fnr ir}==-.t.0nce .. C~ "H t·r~t~y
~xw i~t=· d t.h P t. f'- v!h _i 1 ( ' h P vJa ~-, j rt Au'·:. i.i rt _ 1 r1 f C~t t ., Of!( ~ l:f
fti S s:-:or-t s t ar ies i s SUf-1[." .. ::Jsed t .o t"-1 ave tset=art L~Jf~ j tt-en ( 1;-:
+{-i!.t.·,C > t <:lX pa ~{E:':- ..~ . . .,.
Offj c(-= .
tim ~:,· vJhilE· h(· ~·J.:-: ~~ t-iot·king irr th e.· L.:md
Thf_-:>n CoJ one.1 Rot•t:-"t· t.. ~:or: ' ::. sorr, RE-~nd cJ ph F-:obet· t.sor ' ,
l>Jat·kp.J thet·e f ( 11· a V-Jh :i l P. ThPr: he s t;.:tyed vJ i t.h h i~::
:::; j s t t-· t· in Aus1 j r,, t--; t·s . V. P _ F'u.l mnt· r-- . T 9Cl1 ~-i-'il:c:t t 01
Sf-' a l -~'i' Br <-.tPweJ} of H r.liJ·.:.!r:ut 1P h F· l p fil E" w·jt .=-· t.h<· t , j_l]
ur ~<-1 : ,f- r ou r :-, l ' 1.hf' 1\1 t onrt:·· :-' Gerw r ;;d '~- :: : f f j ( f_· h~ .1 ~·~ ·d vii 1 h
1 ! 1.::11 t,j 1 J , 1 ro c·, . 1.-J..· ._, f: for1.h ihE· i loP:: i ~: th.:·;i th ~, ~> t c:t't>~
~ ll i .. >: a : , h c:t :-. t. .i t J l · t ! _, 1 h: :1 b !J j 1 d i rt c~ _ 1her r--· fl: l' £·, th{-";'
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t·est o t atiort, 1h•.·~· ~-:huu)d t r·::-: ttl:· ,. J1 .::.rtd h,-1'•'r' tht · r; :~'fl'''/ .
l·k 1 ound lhP mor:Py i rt a fund t..h,:-ct l·Ja:·. r:("•t t:c i r1? u::.r·d _
1hvy h:-··~<:l it trcm~::. fpt·t· pc; t u ihC' t.~.Li Jcbn g fu~1d. \•Jc.· gc:t a
bi lJ t ht ·oug~, _
/-\r:d ther• in UtP Ho u:::.r:· , J y:d . fou l ::rcl rt ~·:rq · <: .. J 9C"ll
~~t"GriJr:·y ["" 3rd ·~:~ .. . lr _ , l-J f , r, i ~~ nL~vJ dc·a!:i; ] q~~-:t !) !_~J r~·h ['.J i'~.( f__;t=-,
t-;l;o t-JaS l ct i.et· Gove tTi C.; t· of Te x?.~~ c.:.-.: a ~:pon~.o: ; I gc:i.
M.3tJry 11.=~-.../er· i c.! 1 .Jr. ct :=. a sr-.\or~ sr. ~~-= lJ.;h~; is lj\lifiQ jn ~-~o r~
Antonio; a nd 1 g o t. t·it· _ SeeJ.ig::.:c1rr of San Art tordo , c: :·.-.
S f:JOflSCt· a So T had foUl· t o r:atT '/ the bilJ in the Hc.ll..tse .
Se-=n·c:ey B:·acel>Jell o f Houston can·ied it in t ho Sena1c·.
1-Je got c: unanimous cons ent out cf t ht:• ~:e n at e_ l>iP asked
f ew tc:".S , OOD t o res ton'? t..he bui .1 ding _ V.le got it and i.")y
t he t .1me _ _ y ou know how the s t ate drags jt s feet
about t.h.i r:g ::; _ _ b y t.he t.ime they got cl ~· ound t o
sper1ding the money , the j n t. er es t. ha·.:i c.c c umu la t ed ar:d L'-'2
go t· :tc:s,ooo to r e s t.e:r e the L<:md nff :ic.e.
Ar-Hj t ha t. wa :....: orie t.l-~irJ g _ J go ,jotlJrt ar~~j l or)~·~ .2-.t it
E::ver-y Ji t t.le bi1 bec:au:=.e ypu nc"vC?r r..ar: ~eJ 1 v.Jhat those
legi s lat.o1·s at·e goj n g to do_ 1ftt:=!Y n1i·;:ht t.c~e j t. •.Jcn~r~ ...
And s o I c.hec: f.: on it. e very J i t.tl e bj t . vJher' I go t o
Aus t .J n _ Ai 1 d 1 he~- e j t s i t s _ _ :": very be;::u tjfuJ
] i tt .l r: t~uiJdi n g _ i t' ::. no1 gn.~ctt b.i g _ arrd j 1 "1 :~··
r1r: t'hf:' southPas1 r-cw n r--:· cd 1 hP c. a~,j ted 91 ou r :d:::~. t~r • ::i I
h tlp E· it. a lvJ ay~-; s t ay~. 1 hPr E.' .
r·1: lh<-i1 ' s , - p~t! J y a b P<:uJ 1j f u1 b ujJJ.i ng a nd J ' m
r:h 1 .i gh 1 r·d 1 Cl hc·;~ t 1 h <11 -::.1 f1 t y cd ynut !':.·<'IV Ht 9 - 1 '} lVI_· y ou
!;· ); l i, ,. ,,,
t·1: rr..:Jj (q \ tl:'-d i1 i o t :,~~;vjng i l 1r· uld i C\11 •.1 (iffj ( r·
f?.u j J eLi n g j r 1 II u :,.1 i r' . l i"' ~· ituJ·i' .::J U! C'r t:Jn i-~·fi 1 1(• t~! r :.. t~tt t ... .
T<.tli.;j rtS:l about t •u::=-.tjn, J t..r:>t th-:·Jt you 'vr_• had 0 long
~tr1 d IAJOrtdE·t· f u1 c.c. r·epr LrH.ll•J.ing 1 hC:· f..'ecq:.•lr jr1 r~u-::. t ir, u!tu
hc. vt- :i r1f1 uer:cr:--d the develo pn:er1 i of T~:·x,::,~-: 1r: cut
.1 j f C::'i . .i HIP • !J c~ arJY c,f tJ-, p~:c:· r ~ e:-" Cl~Jlc· ~·:. . i ~~n~:J OL!i ]
,jr\n ':' t krt c;w t~Jh~1 1r) a :·,L ~rtrtt at•CJ!J t spf·r· jf_i c~aJ j y
pet· h aps vJe c uu1 d S CIY , d.i.d you kr: ot-J t l1t:! Fet·gu;:..on:::
rnake a r1 y c omrHE'rt 1., C)} Lnc~ t :J orr~' C1 th(_..t~s'?
R: I only kne v; the Fet·guson s tht·ough n:y par- ent~-- And
also , I knew then: by sight, of c.otn-se, because they
lived in Ternpl e , whcm I we nt tc, Temple High Sc hool.
1[-,en 1 l;lent t c> a gir-l' ~-:: =:c.f:ool at M-::: ~-~" Hat-dj ;; Bayl e;·_
Thcd ,. youngt-T d::;.ught.et· , Don·ac.e Fet· ·;.;uson, was in my
math c l a s s. And Dorrace is stiJl living in Austin .
The F t:-: t·gu son~~ vH::- t·e v e t· y ~<.l ot· thy cit .izens ur:.· tht·ough
her·e _ J j m Fpr· g uson, who loJ-=~~ l .;j_ t.e~- Go·-.tet·no: c-·f the
~.:q·a t.e of Texa~·:. , t·Jas a youn9 J .C:!vj;'e:· ir: Be l ton . _ Hi s
fit·st jot; , :r hf:'] ieve , w::-;::. City At'tonwv of t h •? tm.sr: of
Be l t.on , TeY.<::l·~ . And hi :::. flf:'PC!in t.n!ent ca!f!e fr('lfi Judg~?
~·J i J 1 Me:::s er. I bel ievc (..Jill t1 c:·ssP t· might h av;:-. been
. and by the vJ3)', in the Legi.slatun=: t cHi":1y that
L·JiJ 1 Messer t>Jho appo inted Jim FPr·gus or, City At· t·ot· ney fr.;t·
tht· city of P. e 1ton, hi~: gt· r c.;t gt·andson, Gill Messer· , 1 :::.
irt th1:-! Hu u ·:;;r-· of Repl· P~- Pritfftjv P:-.. t ndc.y _ And J no tj r_ed jn
the-! IC'xa;: 1'1nnt.hly, the~ J r.~::-. 1 j :;::::aH· 11,<:-:-1 Cftlllf-' .l ast WC'(d~,
th2ti P.j1 .1 j:- r·.:1 tt·d the b p:;i m ;:_~ r , jn the Hn usf':· r .f
F:•·prc:.c.pn t e:Jt i V! •::, _ H· ~ j :'. an jnc!l.b t t j ( HJ~., h <ll r:J vJct !·.jnp
, ... ,, I j: i: ,, 1: I
1:: your:?, mc-!rr _
Bu 1 b <H !-. t. c1 1 h t~ f ~ Pt qr1!~.or : · .. _ J.in, F r · rgu ~.nr: ' ~: Oi01l11·:
c1 nd fa t hr-·t 1iv0d c.bu u t ~-ix miJc::. c-a := t ::-1f :.=:z:d nd' ' - The-y
had C. O IIIP up <lf t r ;· 'th e l-~ ; n · P. c·1 vPC'ri t hr S t.c• 1.c• ~: f :·on:
\' i c. i u r· i a , T t:-: x a !';. _ Jin; F Prguso~~'~. f athei- W.'_-<. . <_-". t i I('
Revr?t e n d Jan;•. . ·~··. E· . F 1?-' l ~':....:nJsor: . ~-o you :::c:ee J .i n, l•!a ::.. ~ ~ f-:' Ci .' l JT }"
Jz1nle!"-: E ... FE·t ... ? \1~\cJrt , J t.Jn i :1! ' _ r. .i :: . fRtf1er fl ;jlj t lPE'):t r-:
c.ap1.air: h t the Con fedet-<-tl.e At·ni';' c:nd was an i t jnpr artt
ME-t.hc'l·::ii s1 mird stet· a nd a mi 11 et·. Tf-t £_.Y t >r;ugt! t tfte ct-·1 -~ JL
mi l l do1'-'n t he Sal a do Ct·eek t· i g h t aft.et· t.hP I!Ja t· and
sta t· t.Pd th e i ,- . ., , .
m1 J . .1 1 ng _ The R.-'?··.;e t·end Fet·gusor1 s t ar t .ed
vi s it:i ng a lJ of the mi ssi on c.hun:.hes cf the Meth od j st.
chun .. h . t1i· -::: . . Fet·guson r·an the mill l>Jhile her h usband
r.>Jci~~ g o n e .
He died when t he c:h j 1dt·en wen:~ a}J s rn<:dJ a nd sh~
~let:= . .left to tw ing up six r:h i. l d t-en . She had het· miJ l ,
though, to make a .1 i\.'ing frn· her· ch i 1dren. 1 he-· td desi
son d t·op ped out o f sch oPJ to h e.1p hjs moihet· t·J:ith the:
mi l l . ,Jjn; F et·gu:::.on w:·nt t~ : SnJ ado Cc.J]eg;~' nn d ther: he
t-ead J aw i n t hP l cll<J o ffiu:.".=: in Belton and fir:al l '/
ff!<'ll' ,- i ed I"! i t· i .ctl!l Wa] J 2:c e _ l. -3t.et· or:, afte:· Ji.rn Fet gusor1
hc:d s e t- v Pd a::. the Govf':'! ~ r~m- o f Texas I·J i t.h h .is pol itical
tt ·oub JrJ ~; t. hat h r-· had , he c.ou .l d n o t. t· u r: agairt . Bu t hi s
L\l.t ,f e r_lJ.. Ja' rurt and M< ' C ' -. - Fet·g u son
Gnvc-·nrnt n f t.hF' s t <'~i.e n f TP>:c•'"· _
tl;a ::-: i f--, f"l
'-•1 I - c r1ly l•JO !lk.tn t.o b E·
1 third : in tf-w 1 i gh t
r:d hi~:.tn 1 y , i' hei t· n ->gjrnl';·<:-,. t•J.i l.l n o i f()fnJ> ::trr- t nt1 bad] y_
Jt Okt'/ bt• vH-'d!: ir1 =..C1 fll(" .::n·ca:::-. bu 1. i.1 t·J :i ]J b e ,iu:~·- t
al: ~~u i <:~ ~-. g r•od no. m ~ •. ~ . i nf t h~ · govf::' t not :.:. t h.:t t t·J! · • v •. ·
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r· • - " k n olJ!'r _ / \rrd of r 0 1.11 · ::-:.>-· . J dj d rr c•t l'.fr(•t·; thPn: l·JliPi~
t.he:·y ~·JPI"t ' 90\/f'l riCI! l·~ lt t!rf·ft it 011: ll ·_,,, 1'1f•'>dy'·. t irll£·' ~·r : , .!
d i ·..:i Ln ot·J. ~-,f c ou : ·~-:.. t-- Dar: Mood}''::. mc1t h1.-·r l•k . ._ rl f<cbf' l - t ~·.c;r !
ar,d r e.1<:11 i ve o f nry husbmr<.J':::, f <tn1.1Jy. l•Jc . of r ou1 ::-.c .
SUI=· ~·ul· t ed Don M ·~ody _ HC:-· fr.::-t~ tH-lPfl j rt ClUt t-tc)mt· c.. r~ :j 1
' L . f' • ' l.fJ(' t .' I:]:: -~\HI .l l ';' -
/•nd ther; fl i:iLir:Q C•r: up thn•:J'-1h ti'r t · djff t>:f'":L
g tl\lP.t~no ~ ~~ , I l'"td\.iP l ~ rJC1L·Jn p er-sorJ.~J J y l n c~:= t f:f ttt~fJI _ \.<!hen
F e~~-~~-. ~~ tr .. f .lj ng L·!ct~;. 9r;\'et·r1ot .., tJJC·' h n •:J a t' i g J=.'(l] .i 1 ic a J
picr1ic at ou:- sr:q·jngs f en· Go··.!et·n ::;l· Ross Sr.E •t J' 1-r1g, wf;e:t
he vJas ma!·. ir1g a re- e lec t..ior: bid, vJhi c.h he ] os t _
The Adjutant Genet·a} r•f Tex<:1s l>Jas E-ill S t.et'J ing
fr·orn Belt.on . And E~ i J 1 Ster } j ng h<1d bcPn a Te>:a~. Ran gPt'.
GerJP.taJ E. j J.l :: t.et· J i ng and his l•J ife and Stet·ling
RobE't·t.son , my husband and I had t.he j o jnt big p jc:n j c
f tY Gove t· nor Ross Ste t· J j ng _ The people o f Temple gav ~
t·1r· ~ .. _ ~)t. c) r .. l i 1!9 C1 t .. ec.er:;t j c)r: t.t-1 a t c:.ft.c-} rr:fj()f! _
~''~ j n some l•Jay or t.h r.,. oth e r, I have b eer: o n th•"
e.Jgr· o f t h· p:::1lit .ic.a] r-·1c.tun.' t.h<:tt l fif!t::l pcn·t of c:w-d.:
.. .-~ i J y J if t:: arHj I OH1 s:.tJ t .. t· y t r) ~:;ay t ~t.::t 1 J c. t e 1 ";-" J ., ve
rP:::gJec t t:·:d b :'ir:g p-:~t·t of t.hr~ pic t.ur·c:- _
But when DoJph 8t .. isco>:-o: _ _ ;-· emembet· he h c.d
c..:u·rjed tht?. b.i.lJ fc•r me, when I vJa:::. ·tr ying i c• get fnr:lfiP'/
t r~ t c·~. t·!Jt P the old La:-1d £)ff ice"-' So wt1 r::'i• hP t ·ar: for
G;·,vr·rncw, D~:lr-'h a::.lu·.j rn•' 1r: l:;r· hj: IKJnrarr'-:- canr; ... ::ign
rn -·HJ<'•g•·t fot· 1· t-r~· c o unt.y _ ~;) I C.f't tai r:l y a~.c:t:=>p t f.:'·J
b(:'( d!J ·;r. J hdd bvc:rr t u ~.(·VC'!' cd of 1 ht rat i•·.c: c•f 1 ft( '
d 1 f f • ·t· r-· r 1 l I=' e 1. 1 f.' j 1 • l<J h t ' t•.:r· t ( · r u r : 1 1 i r 1 '] f t q ~; ~ · r n 1 r • c• t 1 ~ , .i r ; ';l .• _
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n1-:::c h .i r• c t·y ~ .• ct u r:• • l·W () l ( . :; 1 1 i r I r • 1 t-· t t f'• t -::·. ; L ~ . ' ! i h i
t.cn: r cJ .11 ; l>Jt lf' k•.::d jt eLl J fiV F' I . At ~Jf tY l (-( t (. ' ] r ~ ~ - : j(_- ,_J
e a ~.: t. Bo JJ !.:nunty b)' 5:.:; pe~ - ~-en t 1 r ~ t.h r:· f.'! ' j fl: :·:;· j t::·. f r • < ' '
Dcd r-•!! P.r· 'i :::. t.: c c . t.:..r t c~ f1t--· vJc'r' t j r) z1~ G r: :\-'t-.'~· r :,-1:- ~ A:-l .j 1 h r.• r: ,
O f C C: ij!' S.f~, J ~\t e f:.,E~ F"lrf 1ft! CH.J~ f-! tr,~_· ~.fJ j\t .::~ ~ -~-~ Ct f fr,:j i· flt
C or~n ~tlly~-; ortr:i ~);lJjtf f o r:cj 1 C'~h y e:::-. :irP.:iCJed, J uclgr.l Lrct nir:-:·1 ..
L=JF'"t e st j lJ tfrt·· '. ..' r:--t·y· t•f"-~~7: t t~ f f t-i (~r:,j:::·: _ JtJ ,jg~--· [JOr!i FJ c o:n& ::.~
in the rr:useurn; he finds sorne book::: ; he helps u s with
pr·ogt· am::= .. He"} s be!?rJ i n my horne. Houston Dan i e J , vJherr hP
l>J2.S ju ~. t. a lit.t1 e b o y , wouJd c.onrc l,Jith h i s fa the:_.!· . 1 ' ri
s ee ~em vJaJkir:g dm·m t.h P front t.J,..: : :J~:, t,Jhen F't· j co was
t=-lec- tior:eet· ing for gc1vernot· . You knm·J thc:~ t periud i ~;
gon e f ot·evet· _ That pet· soncd. c ont act, t he v o t.e t· artd the
candidate . You have t,j g ma s::: !T!P2 ti ng~. ; you have->
. .. . . r f~ 1 e·v 1 ~3 J ::;rt _ Put I S ai•J Pri c e DanieJ a rl·J hi s :..~o n, Ho:J::> t r"; r:
D c.rd c~ .1, ~·Ja Jkin g cbt•Jn rr:y ft·ont vJ-:d k . H>:> h.:-;d c n nrc 1 c' a~~.! ·.
th e~ St e r·ling Ro b l? l· tsor. s t o vote fcq · h H iL Ar!d ::;f C t1l ..!t"~: t·· ,
... ~.v~--' ,J J G _ ~Je h a d him ir: . i·Jc~ l.JP.rrt 't hough nur h ome 3r1ci l-·Jt:-
=-:f::_;wE·d h1 nJ t.t-t ~.:-' cLi ffe rer:t ~j c,cu n!t::\r: t s a r~-:1 tl-: E~ l et t(.-? l·s tt ~a '!.
:.·~m Hc1us ton h a d t-W j -t·. t c-r! t ,_ 1 C;::11 or• c l Rnt•e 1· t !:·C•n _ K no~·J in':::!
f L!lJ i.~J e Jl t!-1 ;:t t Jt.1.:Jgt·· Dani t?J t-! a•j ffl-::t r ~· ir~tj .Je a r ~ £ a JcjtJ.J i rt
l-Jh u~::..p 1:1,...• 1 h l:> t' vJ:·: ~. . cl 91· ar.ddr.:u g h ·! r:- ;· ·of :·.;-_,:n Hou:-~ t.or:. .-J t?c:tr f ' ~-
n:j Q,_jJ t · rJ.:.-~n ~~, i ~ - Jf-.ort H ~.1 I.J ::: t. cJr! r;~n Li t: ' 1 _ Wh er, T -:-. r~( · t f-:r•
! ;;-; P•i.1y no1J, tn '/CJ!Jf!•J Hnu:.~ t n1• ll<lffi c-·.1, h t· n! c~ rrtjon~:. tr J('
d ifft- · : · f'r: ~ d r>, ll Ol(' ~r t '. i !!: t! h r:· h '-, rJ ~~P{ ' i'J jr, my h ou:.'- t:: ~.JiH'r: hl-·
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f~: l hc·r: l·.dn·r: l-n, t·J;L. h t 1.·e rt ;1r.J•.: • n k·:·b~ · t-·;·H .i -;· c cd J !·'Q•.·
t.o~·, 1 hc" r· r · ·~. f: lltr .. vjc flf.::<.L · ih,:t( ~t Il l'/ il(:u··;, . .-;;,•:1 H ou~~tor,
W ~t~: i rt'v1 !)} \l£-:,_j j f i t f r;:~ t rt:{l\' j l · _
M: Thai'~-. fn ~;c. .incd .ing, t"i~ ~·- kr,bet t.sor:.
l•Jher: ;.-cut- oLJ:: chiJ dt C>rt _ _ artd 1 \.o!•:1,; .1d Jji't:· for ·
)'C':t. .! t tJ Cf..H fJHtf=·ni nrt '/Ct!U' LHJrt ( f;j 1~:it E-"·f: I;J(·i•c' 9;·r.:L·JJ f19
1..li-', ,j:id i.h'?Y a.1l J .i vt:> ftPr e .ir j ::;.:~jd,-j ..-, at iJa~ [:(lf:~ ~· -
\..)! tvrc did they go 1 c1 I , ,·,
~J f J(}(Ij : t·~rHj v:h~i t ~.Ji:i~: t f!L· i ~ ~;oc. j ..:~ l
Jj f ~-- liLt-~ , t n:-::ing ihe R r:lt.~ t:;;·t~:~r:no.:--:~ frc:nl S a ],:.i:jc: ·:
R- l·Jcll , 1'11 cli'lStrJe t- the J a~t . f:t l-~.t - They ~·JerE· j ust
the Robet·tson k ids and they had 1.c1 gr?t vJi t h it _
St.F r ling a nd l l-t a.ci t.ht·ee cr~i l d rer: .. (J!J r oJ de~: t is
Mat- y L uc: i 18 Robe~- t.son An:b t-ose _ ShP's out· man· je..:J
dauQh t.e1· in T;,:.nnt:'ssee _ f'"~'/ r;anJe .is tvi::H-y L ut: i} E-" :.::r; v1e
called h P.l- Ci le_ Ci l e t<Ja:::. kind of the l eade!· of thE'
f
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af!iJ .t Y- ShP ~~. till i s tod3y _ Wh~:.>rr she speak::,, all of
1t"tP ot.l-tet-s Jj s1Pr: to t-: E-'"r-~ jr~cJLt ci in g f-teJ- f iv(:' chjJdr-er!_
1 h !=' m-•xt c hj .ld hi ::J::, / -\l'! r! f1 <-iC J .in Robet·t:::,or: _ And A!!i;
t'iac J.jn get~. the name t1;:::c ljn, ii '::: a famiJy sut-r1ame H:
rny ht.Jst)antj ' s f arni J ~;-.. _ l:Jfir:'r! Ster- l ing .3r~ d I tcJc.rk tt-~ t~
cf""li ] d!-er; .. _ we W>?TE> ir, ~.<J j 1J iamsbi.l!·g , Vjt·gjnj'-1, o n e
of U:f.-~ h o::;tesse:::; h : thr- RaJP :ig!1 T a v et·n was gjv_ing us
S0HF:? r c..:).:=:tJ. nic. e spec i aj atten t ion a nd I l•J {j :::. yp-~.-.v
g!- 21 t ( J f 1_1 J - ::·;a 1 jntnY:!ucc"d n,y:::~f'J f <'tnd ::.~-t.id , " J'n: Lucil(:'
Et >bpi· tsclt f :· om ~;:::il<:t>iu, BPlJ Cuur:t", Tt:~x a::. _ /\r;·.l
j r: 1 l odu l f:•<i roy f ~-H!Ii ] y rirJd whc' r! J t c:lftf' 1 c • Afllt l"i<ct( ] i n
f~DbPt" tSOft, t h.i~o·. Jc.:d',.' dt' (>t;) ~ ri' t 'O.,f.' ] f U p i::Htd s;:·,:jd, "\IJ~ ! P t" t'
d i d y 1 •I 1 ~:! ,· -1 t . It> · r 1 <1 r11 t • t·i. : · 1 j r, ·: · " ArHJ 1 -...:;-1 .i ,j., " 1 1 :-.. .~:
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J.: = f a mily :::;utrr2.rP._. i r: my h u ::.; l;z-:~nd ' :. f ctllli J y." /\l lC~ ~:-JH ·
~-. .:ud , "1 ~-Ji'l ~- b rq· r, c..; 1''1,:~ ( J.irt hc_-·t t · in Vi: g in _ict. W,j If' I ( · d i d
t .h P Mete l i rt ::-; J i VC:-' '? " J ~--~::i ·J, " v!l tPr: they irt1.P.t· n, .:n t· :ied t-.:iih
t .h1· F;ubP t·t.;:-.on ::, , jt. l,,•a::.::: ,-j?h t h r·tT :ir1 Vit ·Gi r, ju _" t,nc! j t
al l took plc.:c. r::· L·Ji thin tw:.nty n ::i.1 P :...~ of l·!illiam ··,t.wg1 ~
that t hP:::.t-> fa m:i li e~ - rne t <:tnd .ir: t f:'n!i-::rt· :i pj: th~>
~~tet·l irig_~ ~ t ftF• c:J etC k:~·., tt! tt , .. lac. ] :i r::-. .. i f-IE~ F·;clt-:!~:t 1 ~·.rlrJS <:-i!" p·j
Rc-trtdol p h::, all ir:t erm~ !·r-:i ed _ lherP t'.i;:_'re f ivt· c•f then:
J. n t.hP H ou~~P of P-ur· gessr:-o:: <:; t Oft L• i i HIE~ - :..~ --:: l ·Jl-~ ft a·i a mo::::. \
deJ i ght.ful vi s it; kind of a p e 1·sonal t ouch thC::'r e at
Wi lliamsb1..wg, Vi 1·gj nia _
Gut my second chjJd, Anrt t ~ ;--p.::Jir: RobP!·t ~:orr , g rew up
the1·e lln thP ,. a.n c.h and th ey 1·od~ h ot·seback _ They hctd
t .rI-:e•l t ' own c:a t- .t .. J' P. Thr-~ youngest c.h.i 1 d W<:1S named
Stei· l ing C _ Robe ~· t. snn _ Hr,• is the: fourth gem~ ~- atjon
( fifth g~ rtP-t c-:tion, named St.et· ljng c_ Robert 5:.;on t o J ive
in th e h ouse. H e'~. a you£t9 att.o1·n ey in D.::dl a ~- - H j ~,
undE-r gradu.~te di~ gt· e e i s: f t·onr UT, Austjrt; h is l avJ
d e g t·ee j s from Var!dt:rbiJ t ) _
But. I -=:t.-=tt· t.ed t.o t eJ l you ar:d 1 l•Ji j 1 rl \':v-l . ec..c.h o nt:-
cf th t:• c.hildt·0r1 stat·t.ed n:tis jng r egj:::.terPd H>o i' P fO!- d
catt le b e f cq·e t.hf~Y ever L·Jertt t.o s c hool_ } 'd h '=' v~ t.h £.-rit
savt=· t.hP.i t· mon e-;-' t.h .:d: thei ,. aunt.s ar1d uncle,::.:. ·"~'"j
f r j e:~rtd::. vJo u ld g j VI.:·' t.h eril t .o buy c nndy o t· i .- r-· u·eaan.,_ I>.;P
k =d a bi g j1on :.;:_:f;-. tl r c-: t.' ~-, c1lde r thor; t. h~:: h t.1u::.--f~ and 1
~-J ~ ,,_!J d h -::1 \d·· thr.:>m p tJ t t h r: :it rnr;;-,py .ir: th<·d .. 1-JhC-'il vJc~ S-7\V~d
f ·r;r;u.J l·: t o Lu;' <1 r egj::: 1 P t P•:l cc-1l.f, lll E' b nug~ :1 i 1 f r.11 th~· rr; _
[ d eft c. h jld !t;.:d ti-Pc' it h (· t.-.l C1 f tC~CJ i ~- 1 1·l(· ·d ccd11 ~-· arrd 1h•'Y
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leC1rrt e d t r • w t itt:•; ::u! :... ivt> \i!t j t i r1Q . E>e: C1U:..t · t<JI~t.' r! C j } t •
fj , - ~. l t·J~r, l 1u :.-rhc•c.J , tht.· f.ir !:.1 ddy ~~-hr> r ctntP hon :~::. vc=t-)'
de j c~ c t1=-·d. /H;J 1 ~ - i:iJ f1 , "t.Ji·;::.i t l..Jet:=. l.·;t-cJr!~J v,rj tf·t ~. r t"toc ] '? " ~;~: r·
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fHIJ(.h _ n A::d I sc.j d-c ll(:j iF· , Yt"1U ru:J ~.1 f1C1i. ~:-:r.-~ecd. C• f yc~u ~-
t e ac. h e!· ::: t .h<:tt t·JaY _ I.Jh <-tt , c.
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"Sh>:: Cc.l'l' t L·Jl· .it 8; SftP pi· i n t.::::-..- " t~ n tj I
tte t ~: " St-1 F· said7
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t hat ' s the ne\•J WaY to do. They teac-h r.hild;·en t.D ~=·t·int
i nstead o f v.w i te _" :r d on 't c an:' l.oJhcd they dc..1, I won t t o
vw i t.e 1 j ke Daddy vH i tes _" So I taught her c.u rslVP
V.Jl·it.ing and she f illed in all of thP t· egistn~tior; form:,.
fo :- all of the childn=•n, s calve:::: . He 1· i-.wi ting wa~:
bt:·aut.i fuJ ft·om t he v e ry b eg.inni r:g. ShE: s til.l has the
be:::::1. h.::tndw1· it.] ng of any of the chi 1 d t·en. She took ;-;
gJ-r:cd· de-=. J o f pd dP i n i 1..
The mj nut.e they a.11 c.ame hon;f' f t·om school, i hP'/
g :·,t i n t o Hreit· vJO! k clot.hes <:~rrd they l earned to d: j \.!€• b
p j ck-up wh£'r; i'he y Wl'! e ni n e YP<tr~. c:]d_ They r ould t•a ( !·.
ir,tn the -::tl l ey-w:ty of the b-::n·n. Of cou:se w ~ d idn ' t
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of Cincinr,a t.u:::-., t-Jhjch 1 t hjrd: I·JOul d br::· c. very gr·eat
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w~-:t~. a mPmber of the Ot·der· of Ci.nc:inn.::~t.u:::. _ That.
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J WEt~ jn Ft·an c-P la::.t /.:;,ugu!:.:1. , 1 went irt thj~.
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