THE INSTITUTE OF TEXAN CULTURES
Oral History Office
SUBJECT: Alabama-Coushatta Indians
INTERVIEW WITH: Miss Cora Sylestine(Side 2)
DATE: 14 Jun 1988
PLACE: Her home on the reservation
INTERVIEWER: Linda W. Donely
TAPE I, SIDE 2
D: There’s a big blank space. And there’s even an area that says that the tape is by Cora Battise and that is wrong the tape is by Cora Sylestine and um she is the uh daughter of the former chief. She was a teacher and her brother is James Sylestine the ho- the historian. And um there is a long a blank space before the tape begins. This is the beginning now of the Cora Battise tape.
S: Not educated at all. They were. My father was a fifth grade. I think he went up to fifth grade. And that’s all that’s far, far that as highest education he got.
D: That’s probably all there was at the mission school.
S: And uh there wasn’t a mission school at all.
D: There wasn’t?
S: No. And uh my mother went and uh up to the third grade but she never did have a chance very much because her uh parents. Her uh father died before and she didn’t know very much about her father her she had seen him once and he was aXXXXX 2
sickly man. And uh her uh mother died when she was thirteen years old. So, she was kind of raised up by her aunts and brothers and she was kind of treated rough kind of roughly and uh.
D: Was that here on the reservation?
S: It’s right here on right not right here but we have uh land over there. See her parents bought a land uh of their own. A hundred acres. So that’s where they lived. And we still own that hundred acres but it’s divided into we uh …(name?) holds twenty-five and the only four uh in the family so they we divided into twenty-five acres each. So..
D: It’s still nice amount of land. And can you farm it?
S: Uh no we uh don’t have any uh..
D: Or timber or..
S: The timber uh company has uh is around it uh and we can and well we can get in from the highway but uh I can go as far an one of the uh uh members of that uh acre acreage said no, you can’t go through my land. So, that’s..
D: Oh no, so your land locked.
S: So, I’m land locked.
D: At the moment.
S: Yes.
D: Maybe, it’s just uh like money in the bank.
S: Uh yeah. I thought maybe I uh I uh tried to get the uh timber people to give me uh leeway to uh make a you know a road that I can use…XXXXX 3
D: Get in to get the timber out.
S: Ease easement I guess you call it.
D: Yeah.
S: And uh so I can get to.
D: And everything is okay. So I’m sorry to interrupt but, I just didn’t want to miss it or have to ask you to repeat.
S: Well, uh anyway that uh he dis he kind of think that he was going to give me an easement and he said, well I’m afraid you’re going to sell it to somebody else and they’ll go through this land so he didn’t give me an easement. So I don’t have…
D: Maybe you could have it for a limited period of time or something.
S: And uh so I don’t have any easement and I haven’t…
D: Not anything from the other direction, there’s not some other way that you can get to…
S: No, I haven’t. I don’t have any other way to get to except through the. It’s a tram road. It’s right behind it. And that’s why I want to have the road but he uh the company said no. But uh I can go over there walk or something like that. I can drive as far as I can sometimes. You know for once. But uh but we used to go through like that all the time when the uh this other company. Other lumber company had you know. Had it. And they never did say anything when we used to go through that land all the time. We had the road. But, since we moved uh they all (died) that and we XXXXX 4
moved into this reservation. We were living there moved coming to this reservation.
D: Yeah, I think as long as you’re using it you have the right to keep it going but once stop using it. I don’t know laws are different in different places.
S: Yes, yes. That’s right and uh so. Daddy used to farm over there and used to raise a lot of watermelons and uh they call it musk melons. They were long and they were real good to eat. It’s kind of like…
D: And they’re kind of… Are they kind of yellow they like uh
S: They uh they kind they
D: Cantaloupe?
S: Like they uh cantaloupes.
D: Yeah.
S: They are cantaloupes. But they were long and he used to raise a lot
D: And they have smoother skin don’t they?
S: Yes.
D: Now, I know what you mean.
S: That’s right.
D: Yeah, I love those.
S: He used to he used to raise those, corn and
D: And sell them or …?
S: sweet potatoes and.. No, we just uh kept all of those for our own, for our own and uhXXXXX 5
D: Mmm hmm.
S: We, he just put it away. And uh put the uh potatoes away and corn in the barn and uh used it to feed us.
D: You can’t store those musk melons.
S: No, uh uh.
D: Or watermelons.
S: No. Well no, we didn’t sell them but we just used to uh…
D: Pass them out to friends and relatives?
S: No, we never did. Well, I guess sometimes we did when we brought them home. But uh we used to uh eat them and sometimes we had pigs and things like that
D: Oh yeah, for food.
S: And we used the uh uh the ones that are rotten we bring them home and give it to the uh pigs.
D: Mmm hmm.
S: And uh we had plenty. And we had cows too.
D: Mmm hmm.
S: And uh pigs and chickens and uh some of uh winter time. Daddy used to kill pigs and we had meat and we had all those uh peas and corn and mother used to make the Indian dish out of corn and uh peas dried peas we sell them and uh just left them with the you know hulls on them and whenever we ready we just get them and sell them uh cook them we put one those big uh hams or
D: Oh, (unintelligible) makes so taste so good.XXXXX 6
S: Bacon in the…
D: Oh, I love it.
S: Mmm hmm yeah and fix corn bread we used to have a good eating it..
D: Oh, boy is that…
S: That’s the way it was. That was before the government came. See. That’s the way we lived.
D: Mmm.
S: And now uh everything is kind of- you can’t do this and you can’t do that now.
D: Mmm.
S: Since uh, uh we have a council and a kind of look after it and you are limited in things that you can do. So, they say you have cow, cattle. Of course it’s tearing up the uh uh trees that they wanted to grow on their place. So you get rid of it and you don’t have any. No one has any. Maybe one, one or two people have, still have cattle but, we don’t we sell them off and we don’t have any. No pigs.
D: Mmm.
S: No nothing. No chicken
D: So, now you’re totally dependent on going to the shops in town.
S: Yeah.
D: And you used to be self-sufficient.
S: That’s right, that’s right.
D: And they’re saying be self-sufficient but don’t do any XXXXX 7
of these things that will make it possible.
S: That’s right.
D: Mmm. I can see the… In fact, from my, my umm I don’t need to record my own…
S: We were getting along fine and we could uh you know uh I think there were more uh people that got educated before the government came because they was uh there was one or several that had graduated I guess they uh they weren’t depending from the government they just either by scholarship or some the boys get uh athletic scholarship and uh…
D: Basketball.
S: Uh huh and some of them a church scholarship. I got a church scholarship and uh I went and finish four years.
D: Where did you go and what church was it?
S: I went to uh Austin College that’s a church school.
D: Mmm hmm.
S: And it’s one of the best. They say it’s had the highest standard now. I don’t think it was the time when I went. But uh it’s uh it’s uh it’s huh high standard now a day.
D: Is that Presbyterian or…
S: It’s a Presbyerian.
D: Mmm hmmm.
S: Presbyterain Austin College in Sherman Texas it’s uh two about thirty it may be sixty miles north oh Dallas.
D: Mmm hmmm.XXXXX 8
S: And uh that’s where my uh minister the time when I uh graduated the minister who was here uh came from uh graduated from Austin College and then he went to seminary Austin Theological Seminary in Austin Texas and he uh as soon as he got out of the seminary he came right over came right on to the reservation ‘cause the minister that was here was retiring.
D: Who was that? Who was retiring and who was coming?
S: Uh Dr. and Mrs. C. W. Chambers were retiring and uh the Rev. Oscar Landry was the one who came in to take over he was fresh from seminary. He took over. And he was here about thirty-four years.
D: Is he the man who just recently had a stroke and left?
S: Uh no he didn’t have a stroke. He had a cancer and he died.
D: Oh, this was something that Mr. Foster said. And I bet he just had it wrong. Maybe.
S: Mmm hmmm. That’s what it is. Uh Probably but uh he uh…
D: Because there hasn’t been anyone since that has there?
S: Uh.
D: Is that the last person who was here?
S: The last person that was here was uh Rev. Byron Price. After uh Mr. Landry left, Byron Price came and he has been. He was here about fourteen years and uh he went on to Dallas. He moved.
D: But, he’s okay now?XXXXX 9
S: He’s uh he’s okay.
D: He didn’t have a stroke.
S: No, uh ugh.
D: Wonder who that is. That must have been the other Landry.
S: No, he didn’t have a stroke.
D: Hmm. So, who do you have now?
S: We don’t have anybody. We just have different ones coming in and out every Sunday. We have one uh different ones every Sunday.
D: Have they ever tried uh Indian to be the minister of this uh you know put him through the seminary and so forth?
S: Well, my brother went. But, he said he uh. Well, I guess he got discouraged and he left. And he’s been in uh…
D: Is his name James?
S: Right.
D: He’s a historian isn’t he? ‘Cause several people have told me that it would be real worth my time to talk to him. Make an exception and talk to a man they said. That he’d be a good one to talk to. I’d like it if you’re willing to asking him if he would be willing to talk to me and sort of…
S: yeah.
D: Do you think he would be?
S: Well, I uh really don’t know. You might ask him if he would.
D: Ugh, just ask him. Call him and ask him. Is he on the XXXXX 10
phone?
S: No, he’s here but he’s getting ready to go to town.
D: Oh, it wouldn’t be today. I was thinking some time. In the next few weeks.
S: You might see him before he leaves I don’t know what time he’s leaving but, he’s supposed to be leaving. Uh sometime soon. He’s getting ready. I think he has an emergency uh they usually have an emergency meeting this afternoon at four o’clock. And I think he’s called in so, don’t know whether he’s going or not but he isn’t ready yet.
D: Mmm hmm. Well maybe I’ll just leave him alone today.
S: Yeah.
D: Doesn’t sound like a good day to ask favors. But, I would like to talk to him some time.
S: Okay.
D: That reminds me. I, I found this article very interesting. And it was written by umm do you know this Emily. Umm.
S: Augustine.
D: Yeah. And it was written in 1932.
S: She’s my sister.
D: Is she really.
S: Yes.
D: Have you seen this article?
S: I don’t know whether I’ve seen.
D: Have a look at this.XXXXX 11
S: I don’t know. I uh.
D: Is she older or younger?
S: She’s the oldest in the family. She’s the oldest one. She was the oldest one. She died in 1960 66, 66. That’s when she died.
D: I found it mo one the most interesting and helpful things I’ve read.
S: Yeah.
D: And that’s the truth. ‘Cause it talks more. Now this first part doesn’t help me very much. Because it’s just sort of the general history. Although, this is where I got the insight about the land, that it wasn’t good for farming.
S: Yeah.
D: But, this is what’s so interesting is it talks about the various women.
S: Oh.
D: Who went on to education actually I think it’s on this page. Here we go.
S: Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah.
D: It’s this part that I found so interesting. And I wanted to know what happened to each one of these women.
S: Well.
D: And look at this picture. And see if you know these women. I think they’re the same women. I think that this. I’m try. Been going through my resources and trying to add two and two. I think that these women are the women referredXXXXX 12
to in the article here.
S: Yeah. This is uh this is uh Elguana right here Elguana Sylestine.
D: Now which one? On the right or left?
S: This one. The uh left.
D: Okay, this is E.
S: And the other one is Lizzie.
D: And what hap- what happened to these two women?
S: Liz, Liz, Lizzie’s still living.
D: I’d love to interview her.
S: She’s uh eighty-five years old and she’s still living.
D: Oh. Do you think she might talk to me?
S: I uh imagine she duh she would-
D: Now, she’s the one who went on and got the teaching certificate and everything.
S: Yeah, she’s the one that. Uh huh she I uh ask her why don’t you go on and finish and got a degree. And she said Oh I just feel like that I couldn’t make it. She ne-. She just uh.
D: She made it that far. I’m sure she could have done it.
S: And uh she never did go on. She got married and she had several children- four or five children. And then she died with diabetes.
D: Diabetes is a big problem here isn’t it?
S: Yeah, that’s right. Yeah, that’s who it is. That’s uh Lizzie.XXXXX 13
D: Ah. Gosh I had so much fun when I found this picture and then I found this and I just felt sure that was the same-
S: Yeah.
D: People. And, and let’s see- there’s another one. This one. What happened to her?
S: Ivy, yeah. She’s still living. It’s a I. V. It is I. V.
D: Spelling turned.
S: This is I. V. Y.
D: I. V. Y.
S: Uh huh Ivy. They called her Iva but Ivy. I. V. Y.
D: I. V. Y.
S: Ivy.
D: And uh. Tell me what happened to her.
S: She’s still living. She came to the senior citizens. She was over there today.
D: She was over there today?
S: Uh huh. She’s uh eighty-two. No, she’s eighty-three last uh about two weeks ago.
D: Oh, I would love to meet her.
S: And she uh. She’s still living. And she’ll be over at the uh, uh senior citizens tomorrow. She was kind of wasn’t feeling well. She didn’t come yesterday but she came today.
D: About what time will she be over there?
S: She’ll be over there. She’ll be over there around ten o’clock in the morning.XXXXX 14
D: If I come over, will you introduce me to her?
S: Oh, yeah.
D: And what about Lizzie?
S: Lizzie. Uh, Lizzie’s over there too. I think she’s…
D: Does she come over there?
S: She hasn’t been coming over there at all. I haven’t asked her. I didn’t pick her up so I haven’t talked to her at all.
D: Does she live on the reservation?
S: Mmm hmm. She lives over there on that uh. Twenty-five hundred they call it. You know what where that ball field is.
D: Yeah, I…
S: On the other side of that ball field. There’s a road turns and that’s see- that’s one, two, three- I think it’s about the fourth house on the uh right.
D: Is that where the kindergarten teacher lives? Closer- There’s uh, the woman who- What’s her name? Olver- No… (unintelligiable)
S: Rita?
D: No, this one. Ethelene!
S: Yeah. Uh. It’s uh-
D: Is that near where she lives?
S: Ethelene lives on the left hand side and uh I think it’s a little bit. Just about uh, uh there’s a house kinda right across from uh Ethelene lives and a little bit furtherXXXXX 15
on the next house I believe on that left hand that’s where she lives.
D: ‘Cause I have, I have an appointment uh to go and talk to her. Maybe I can call them at the same time.
S: Yeah.
D: Or have… Maybe, I can have her take me over to Lizzies.
S: Yeah, you uh you ask her and uh she might do that.
D: She might be willing.
S: She’d probably be willing.
D: Ask to go to… Okay. So there’s quite a group of women who have become educated as teachers. You have uh sort of sorority don’t you?
S: Well uh, there’s a young girl uh works over there at the gift shop. She uh just uh finished her uh junior year uh junior college. In uh Tyler, Tyler Junior College and she’s working over there in uh, uh…
D: Mmm hmm what’s her name?
S: Lana, Batiste.
D: Lana. Batiste.
S: Uh huh. Yes.
D: Okay, I’ll make sure I go and talk to her too.
S: And she’s over there at the gift shop.
D: Yeah, I was in there the other day.
S: Uh huh.
D: And I saw a girl. I bet that’s probably who it was.
S: Yeah.XXXXX 16
D: And I didn’t…
S: She’s uh she’s dressed real nice. And she usually wears ear bobs. And uh she uh has her hair kinda you know real oh fixes her uh eyes and uh you know, you know eyes, and her uh (unintelliable- eye brush or eye blush?.)
D: Mmm hmm.
S: Sometimes. And I don’t know what she does in the uh.
D: I didn’t notice today.
S: Whether she does or not.
D: Uh, But I.
S: Uh, she gets off, two days, maybe tomorrow and the next day. She has, She has off days.
D: Oh, okay.
S: Two days off, I think its tomorrow and Thursday that she gets off.
D: Okay.
S: She’ll be…
D: I’ll be around on Friday. And, and I’m going to be here for two weeks and home for a week to be with my family and then back two weeks. So, this is not a one day adventure.
S: Yeah.
D: This is uh…
S: Okay.
D: So, I’ve got time to…
S: Uh huh.
D: Find people. Well, I’m excited about finding XXXXX 17
(unintelligible). Let me show you some more photographs
S: Okay.
D: And see if there’s anybody else that you can tell me about. These are photographs that people have lent
S: Yeah.
D: To the Institute. And then we made copies and then returned them.
S: Uh huh.
D: To them. So that’s how I happen to have these particular…
S: Yes.
D: Uh, photographs. Do you know this woman?
S: Uh, don’t know.
D: Jeanie John…
S: Oh, Jeanie John Pier, yes. I used to know her.
D: What happened, what happened to her?
S: She, she died. She died long time ago.
D: Oh.
S: She uh, she uh (unintelligible).
D: What, what… Tell me about her life.
S: Well I don’t know much of that but she lived back, back over here just uh oh just uh farish from the highway and back over this way.
D: Mmm hmm.
S: It’s mmm here’s the line right here. It’s uh it’s uh fence where’s the reservation line. And they were living XXXXX 18
over here. And they were living outside. And there was an old woman who want. The woman that’s sitting up there you know.
D: Yes.
S: I have the picture up there. That’s sitting up here and that was my father’s uh aunt I believe. See, that’s my father over there see. That’s my father.
D: Uh huh.
S: And uh.
D: What was his name?
S: Uh, Bronson Cooper Sylestine.
D: Oh, he was a chief.
S: Yeah, he was the chief. He was chief in 1936. The centennial year. He became chief and installed in 1936 and he was chief until 1969 when he died. He was uh chief uh for somewhere around thirty, thirty-five years or something like that.
D: And is that your mother?
S: That’s my grandmother. That’s his mother. That’s my dad’s mother.
D: I have a feeling that I may have…
S: And that, that’s my dad’s aunt. See uh, that’s uh that’s uh my grandfather’s sister. See?
D: Mmm hmm.
S: That’s my grandfather’s sister. So that makes her aunt to my daddy see? Isn’t that right?XXXXX 19
D: Well, when I hear the tape. That’s the kind of thing I do when I get. When I listen to the tape, I sit there and then draw it out.
S: Yeah.
D: ‘Cause I get lost too, listening.
S: Yeah. Well, that’s who, that’s who it is.
D: But, I’ll work it out tonight.
S: And uh, she’s the one that live right back over here. And uh on the outside of this line. And she is uh Coushatta. But, she came I don’t know how. But, as I remember she was living over there. She was already living over there. One time…
D: She was living on the reservation?
S: She was living with her. She was living with her that was that’s Salissie Henry.
D: Uh huh.
S: When I remember.
D: Huh.
S: I don’t know how come but she came and live her. She used live with her always until her death. And uh she kept on living over there until her death too.
D: Were they just friends or was she working like as a housekeeper or you don’t know what?
S: May, may I really don’t know but that Celise Henry married uh married George Henry.
D: I think I’ve his picture. XXXXX 20
S: George Henry was uh Coushatta. And so, yes.
D: This is a terrible picture. But, is that the same one?
S: That’s that’s Celise.
D: That’s the same one as this one isn’t it?
S: Uh huh. And George, this is George Henry Henry see?
D: Mmm hmm.
S: Celise is this is George. And George Henry is…
D: I think I’ve got a picture of George Henry.
S: George Henry was uh was her husband. And so George Henry was a Coushatta and maybe I really don’t know but maybe she, she may be kin to George Henry. I don’t know.
D: That would explain the Coushatta part wouldn’t it?
S: Yeah, it, uh it’s when the Coushatta side. And I wasn’t about, about that high when I remember. I used go and I said, “Daddy, let’s go to uh Daddy’s grandmother and let’s go visit.” And they used to laugh at me because I say, “Daddy, let’s go to Daddy’s grandmother’s.” ‘Cause I didn’t know. I thought that was her name see. When I was little.
D: Ahh.
S: And uh, I used to like to go see her. Because she sometimes we had a lot of milk and I get a gallon bucket and uh fill it full of uh clabber and take it to her. And she always give me something- maybe a handkerchief, pretty little handkerchief or something like that.
D: Mmm hmm.
S: And I always want to go see her. And I ask Daddys XXXXX 21
“Let’s go see her.” And she’s always like (unintelligible). I used to do that. And when she died she was. As I remember she living with her. When I remember Celise Henry, Jenny Pier was living with her. So…
D: Are they about the same age?
S: No, she was younger.
D: Jenny Pier was younger?
S: Uh huh. And uh but she I think she did uh Celise was older so Jenny’s uh did most of the cooking by then. She used to be back when. But, she always lived with uh Celise. I remember George maybe not too much. But, I remember he was tall. But, not I didn’t see him as much as I saw Celise. I could see Celise but uh.
D: I have his picture. I didn’t bring it in. I have a little collection of pictures of men.
S: Uh huh.
D: And I didn’t bring the folder in.
S: Yes.
D: I only brought the women. That’s why I don’t have it. But, I know I have his, his photograph as well.
S: Well, that’s Jenny Pier.
D: Mmm. Do you know this woman uh…
S: Dorothy Shill.
D: Shill.
S: Yes. Doctor and Mrs. Chambers’s daughter. But, she died last year.XXXXX 22
D: Oh, no.
S: She did. She uh. She used to come and see us and visit us all the time. And uh when she got sick- she wasn’t sick very long and she died.
D: Oh, I was wanting to go and interview her. I knew she would know a lot.
S: Yeah, she does. She’s the one that used to speak uh Alabama language. And she still knew the Alabama language when she died.
D: Was she the only white person that you know that ever learned Alabama?
S: Yes. That’s right. She uh she did. But, I think lot of uh lot of others that you know that the ministers uh knew but they won’t speak it see. They, they knew what the language mean and they understand I think, lot of them do understand. But, they just won’t speak it see.
D: Were they. You feel kind of silly making mistakes and things (unintelligible).
Male Voice in background: Excuse me.
D: …Any identification.
S: I really, I really don’t know.
D: I just wondered if there’s any way you could recognize those girls. They’re not very good photographs.
S: I really don’t know who they are. ‘Cause I just don’t know. They uh. It has uh the gift fans in it but uh.
D: Not many clues I admit. XXXXX 23
S: (unintelligible) That’s the way it was uh my brother had some pictures and we don’t know some of them because it doesn’t have any you know we could recognize the children you know long time ago.
D: Mmm hmm.
S: So, that’s why I think this is one of the children because uh it’s uh from uh Tom Swanson I believe.
D: Mmm hmm.
S: About in uh 1907, 1915. Uh I was I was just about in 1915, I was just a year old I guess (unintelligible).
D: So, you don’t remember much.
S: I was born in 1914. I don’t remember much.
D: You know this is a terrible duplicate but, I didn’t want to risk bringing the real pictures. Do you know Eva Bullock?
S: Eva Bullock? Yes. Eva Bullock.
D: It says: “with his daughter, Eva Bullock”. What happened to Eva Bullock? She must be about the same age if you were born in nineteen.
S: This was uh…
D: She must be older. This is Eva Bullock. And she must be about…
S: She, she, she uh she’s born in 1909. She was born 1909 and she died last year in uh July no, June. She was uh some time in June. Because I left here on the June the 30th going to Oklahoma and uh they were having her funeral June the XXXXX 24
30th of last year.
D: Mmm.
S: She died and uh her husband’s still living but, he had stroke so, he’s uh he’s uh hasn’t been walking at all. He’s in a wheelchair and he’s (unintelligible) (talking in fair amounts?) and I think his mind is affected a little bit.
D: Mmm hmm, by the stroke.
S: Uh by the stroke. He wasn’t walking and he couldn’t use his arms. But, last time I saw him he could held out his hand to shake hands. Uh.
D: Mmm.
S: His mind, when he talks he forgets. Like I do, I do too. But, he, he kinda. He’s uh little affected.
D: I think I won’t bother him then.
S: Yeah.
D: Sounds like he just to be respected and at a distance. Uh, what about this one?
S: This one looks like Ludy.
D: It is Ludy (unintellibible).
S: Yeah, Ludy Thompson. I can that’s Ludy. Ludy was a chief’s daughter and the chief’s house was up here and uh it’s uh…
D: When your father was chief or another chief?
S: That was before my father.
D: Oh, before your father.
S: When he, when her father died, my uh father became XXXXX 25
chief see. Died in nineteen…
D: Ludy’s father was chief?
S: Uh huh. Ludy’s father was chief.
D: And what was his name?
S: His name was uh Charlie Thompson.
D: Oh yeah, of course.
S: Charlie uh Martin Thompson I believe, Charlie Martin Thompson.
D: I, I’ve got the whole name. Martin, I think.
S: And uh he be calling Chief unintelligible) (Sungkee?).
D: Sungkee, yeah I’ve seen that.
S: I think it’s the white name is named Sungkee. I don’t know why.
D: What’s Sungkee mean?
S: I don’t know. It’s a white name mean that.
D: It sounds like an Indian name to a white person and it’s not an Indian name.
S: It’s uh it’s Sungkee but, I don’t know why he call him Sungkee. And be anyway he was chief I think it was from 1928 until nineteen and thirty-five. And uh he died in 1935 and then he elected my father as uh chief uh some time in uh fall and they install in thirty-six. That’s the centennial year and January the 1st 1936.
D: I bet that was a big celebration.
S: Yeah it was big celebration. I think that had barbeque over there at the Headquarters.XXXXX 26
D: Uh huh.
S: They don’t have any buildings over there and so they had it up there somewhere around where that uh you know the uh parking places are. That’s where they had it. And where they have the shop around there. Uh, you saw where that uh Senior Citizens was little bit further that way. We had one shop and uh we had a few little uh items there. And we were over there. I was over there. I was going to school here then.
D: Hmm. On the reservation?
S: Yes.